danielpholt Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 That's what I was meaning to say. It's clear at this point however that they're only loosely following the story from the comics. They're afraid to go where the comics go, which is a shame. Maybe the problems with Darabont's departure impacted the show somewhat. That being said, season one never reached the highs it promised during the opening episode. Maybe we're expecting too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 So yeah, Season 3 Premiere was pretty solid. The gang is finally acting like actual zombie apocalypse survivors, but I won't go on until more of us have seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 You can definitely tell that they're trying right away to correct some of the missteps from season 2, especially where Lori is concerned. And hey, for once Carl STAYED WHERE THE FUCK HE WAS TOLD TO STAY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) I'm kinda weird-ed out by the potential Carl-Beth relationship, but my father has the point that these are times where you can't be picky when it comes to companionship. EDIT: Don't go to the Waking Dead cast page on amctv.com because there's a spoiler from the next episode. I forgot the girl's name and the row above her had a "spoiler." EDIT2: However, I will post the T-Dog description because I find it hilariously generic: "T-Dog has proven himself a capable member of the group, offering humanity and kindess." Really? He didn't seem to do much last season, and whatever he did wasn't quite "humane" given that was Dale's job. My favorite scene was When those SWAT zombies came out and everyone (myself included) was "Uh... How are we..." Then they realize the masks work against the zombies, so a tilt of the head and DEAD! How about that gas mask feela though? His face just peeled right off! Edited October 15, 2012 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 That gas mask effect was pretty badass, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I'm glad they listened to fans and made this episode badass. And Rick badass. And everybody not bitch. And Lori cry. It's like all my prayers were answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 No spoilers just yet, but similar to the last episode, I'm baffled by why the gang doesn't kill all the walkers outside of a fence. There's a scene where they want to bring in a dead walker, so they kill one and distract about five other walkers while going outside the fence to retrieve one dead walker. They have melee weapons, and I'm pretty sure rebars and similar metal shafts are not so fragile they break in 50 uses. Otherwise, I think it's a restraint of this being a television show, but they could at least alluded to the idea that they'll take care of any new walkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) They actually do in the comic. Rick teaches a course on killing zombies through a fence with a knife and a hammer. That said, maybe they're just worrying about the INSIDE first and the outside is on their to-do list. Edited October 22, 2012 by Mister Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) That does make sense. It's just this one scene in tonight's episode where that's not necessarily true. You know, why not kill two birds with one stone? Anyway, spoiler time! I'm so glad Rick chopped that guy in the head. If this was old Rick, I worry he would have wanted to negotiate first and then begrudgingly killed the guy. I did think it was rather idiotic to chase after the other guy in an unknown part of the prison since you figure that guy would have gotten himself killed. I feel bad for the remaining two guys... like, I still wouldn't trust them. Just, they started out five and went down to two in a few hours. Also, they totally played up that whole idea Hershel zombified and was going to eat Lori. I'm pretty sure no one leans forward and bear hugs the other person when they revive. If I was at my old apartment where the DirecTV box had component output, I would have so recorded this myself, but at least someone else got it out there. Edited October 22, 2012 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 2 episodes in, and so far so good. Rick is finally badass. Nobody is bitching about life and Shane isn't there to bitch about Lori. And Lori is in self-hate mode. Over-all great start. Hope they keep it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Rat Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 They actually do in the comic. Rick teaches a course on killing zombies through a fence with a knife and a hammer. That said, maybe they're just worrying about the INSIDE first and the outside is on their to-do list. I think in the comic they did take care of the inside first, then took care of all of the zombies outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 As I was walking today during Halloween in Austin I caught a glimpse of Daryl walking next to me. My friend took a pic with him but I was too drunk to care, so I took a pic of him with a random chick. He was cool enough to take pics with his fans but you could tell he wasn't into it at all haha must've been annoying. I'll post the pic tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 here he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Good episode tonight. They were clearly focused on establishing the setting and characters they'll be using for the rest of the season, but for an episode that was mostly exposition it was still pretty decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) The only thing that bothered me was that it got a little old how... Michonne was very suspicious and constantly "Where are weapons?!" Sure, I know that she's technically right, but for an episode that's introducing the setting and characters of Woodbury, it would have worked better if Michonne was casually suspicious rather than demanding to leave every scene. Something where we're able to take in more of the community other than having a brick wall of a character. Then again, it's building on her character and her eventual reveal of past events. Just, it made the twist feel less of a shock when you have a character going on in their doubt. EDIT: About Norman Reedus (Daryl), the guy is constantly being stopped to take pictures with someone. He's one of the show's favorite characters and I've seen many photos of him with fans. Ever since Season 3 started, I've only seen a few fan pics with Chandler Riggs (Carl) and one group photo with Irone Singleton (T-Dog). Even then, on that T-Dog photo that was on Reddit, the submitter had to tell his friend Irone was famous for the photo. Edited October 29, 2012 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 TL;DW Lori redeems herself by sacrificing her life for her baby, and Maggie takes the mantle of "Queen Bitch" by, get this, willing to cut Lori open to save the baby, but can't finish the job of disposing Lori's body to prevent another Walker. Who does she tell to finish Lori? Hey, Carl go shoot your dead mother in the face! T-Dog goes out like a boss and gets replaced by that other black guy. /Circle of Life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 I don't really feel like Lori sufficiently redeemed herself, at least from an audience viewpoint. I mean, who gives a shit about a baby? Babies are the worst characters in just about every show they're in. I feel like they might have been a little too eager to get rid of Lori before she could make herself truly likable again. I will say, however, that this episode went a step further in making Carl a better character. We'll see if it sticks. And T-Dog, we hardly knew ye, but the man went down like a champ. If he had to die, at least he didn't die for nothing. Of course, then they immediately bring in a new black guy, which seemed a little fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 T-DAWG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) In a zombie apocalypse, I see... babies as important characters. It's life continuing on in a world that is constantly seeking to destroy it. I do feel like they killed her off early in the season, given that we're only a quarter in, but to me her character got straightened out in this season to where I'm satisfied. Sure, I'll always hate Season 2 Lori, but she came close enough before dying. At the end, when Rick is "emoting," it seriously almost sounded like he began mocking Carl. Seriously, if you can watch it again, that's how it came off to me. EDIT: And Carl has gone through a lot. Even I was uncomfortable, but when your mother is preggers in a prison filled with zombies, I guess you can tolerate some things that are just straight out taboo. Edited November 5, 2012 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 No. I would never see my mom's va jay jay. I'd rather get eaten by zombies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 I get why the baby is important in the grand scheme of the story, but viewing the show as an audience member? Babies suck. They drag the rest of the entire cast down because everything has to revolve around the god damn baby, just like in real life. I don't even care about other people's REAL babies. I'm not about to start caring about a fake tv baby, especially when it's probably going to end up getting someone killed. Babies don't know that they're supposed to shut the hell up when zombies are about. And yeah, that was some pretty hammy acting from Rick at the end there. I was watching it with a friend and he said he was tempted to laugh. Comic spoiler below The baby dies in the comic and this is gonna sound kinda fucked up but it's a good thing it did because Rick and Co. get into some real crazy storylines that probably wouldn't have been possible if he was lugging an infant around with him all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 I don't think it's going to play out like that Jack since... The baby's death involved Lori's death in Woodbury. I guess they can still have the baby die in some manner, but I imagine for a television viewing audience its either going to be off-screen or implied the baby is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Lori didn't die in Woodbury, although she was killed BY Woodbury. I'm not saying it's gonna play out exactly the same, I just highly doubt we'll still be having a baby around by the time season 5 or 6 rolls around. New babies have a tendency to hijack the plot and it becomes a drag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewblaha Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 In a zombie apocalypse, I see... babies as important characters. It's life continuing on in a world that is constantly seeking to destroy it. I do feel like they killed her off early in the season, given that we're only a quarter in, but to me her character got straightened out in this season to where I'm satisfied. Sure, I'll always hate Season 2 Lori, but she came close enough before dying. At the end, when Rick is "emoting," it seriously almost sounded like he began mocking Carl. Seriously, if you can watch it again, that's how it came off to me. EDIT: And Carl has gone through a lot. Even I was uncomfortable, but when your mother is preggers in a prison filled with zombies, I guess you can tolerate some things that are just straight out taboo. You, uh, have some weird opinions. Lori is the one who tells Maggie to the do the Caesarean section. She does not visibly want to do it. Then they are going to leave Lori's body, and Carl says they can't because she'll turn. She moves to get her gun out and Carl stops her. How on earth is Maggie a bitch for this situation at all? I don't think Rick was mocking Carl at all. I think Rick understood what happened and flipped shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) You, uh, didn't understand what I said. Rick, a.k.a. Andrew Lincoln, emotes quite awkwardly at first. To me it almost came off like he had a mocking tone, but then when into sobbing. EDIT: This is about acting, not plot/character. And watch Lori's birth again. Lori eventually gets Maggie to go with cutting her open, but Carl didn't stop Maggie. He says, "No, I can't... She's my mother." Maggie handed Carl the gun because she couldn't finish it. But hey, I'm just being weird here. Maybe others can weigh in on this, but after watching the episode twice, that's how it looked. EDIT2: Oh, and not to you Chewie, but people have been coming up with a weird theory. I don't think some fans understand that Lori is D-E-A-D, DEAD! You don't survive being flat out cut open and bleeding out. She would not, at all, be able to walk away and survive somehow until some episode later. And Carol is alive. In a series where if you don't see a body/corpse, they're not dead. i.e. A certain prisoner. Edited November 5, 2012 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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