TheMightyEthan Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 But "Coca-Cola" is just a brand name and nothing else, whereas "Metro" is just a word that means "city". You couldn't make a "Coca-Cola" brand car without getting into trouble, but you could easily make a "Cola" brand car. If they had named the interface "Metro AG" then yeah, but I don't think Metro alone is or should be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 www.metro.co.uk/home/ Â Metro is also a newspaper here. I think one of News Internationals too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 My point is that we don't know enough to know if it is a spurious claim by Metro AG, or if it has merit. MS obviously think that either (a) The claim has merit, or (b) They don't care anything like enough to even bother defending their use of the name (possibly because they already have another name lined up). Â It's not like MS is short a few quid or a few lawyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 I'm guessing they didn't care enough about the name to piss off a retail partner, even if the claim was stupid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 I'll point this out again: all that's official is MS are downgrading Metro to "codename" status. That there's potential trademark issues, and with Metro AG, is speculation on news sites part. Potentially they have no issue at all with ms use of metro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 There was an internal Microsoft memo sent by the legal team that said the company was threatened with legal action over the name. That almost certainly means trademark. The only speculation is that Metro AG was the one upset about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'm guessing they didn't care enough about the name to piss off a retail partner, even if the claim was stupid. Â Yup, that seems fairly likely. Besides, coming up with a new name will give marketing something to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 well, looking at the style philosophy, foursquare would be a great name. You're welcome, Microsoft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 The logo is terrible. It only works face on. If it's on a product photgraphed at am angle the perspectives clash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) well, looking at the style philosophy, foursquare would be a great name. You're welcome, Microsoft. Â https://foursquare.com/ Â edit: I should also mention that Bing searches include Foursquare results now as part of their social searches. Edited August 8, 2012 by Faiblesse Des Sens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 *woosh* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Really, you assume that it went over my head? I just assume someone wouldn't make such a stupid joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 I don't just assume. Your burning desire to "correct" people just happens to get the better of you now and then. If you thought the joke was stupid why would you feel the need to explain it? (Since that's only other alternative) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Foursquare isn't exactly a huge thing. It's no Facebook or Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Is this still, like, Windows, the single-tasking iPhone edition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 No and it never was, that's just shitty reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/windows-8-gets-personal-use-license-for-anyone-building-their-own-pc-20120821/ Â So hobby builders now get their own proper version of Windows instead of picking up an OEM copy. Not much changes except now we don't have to hit "agree" to a EULA that says you're meant to be Dell not Adele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I don't get why personal PC builders shouldn't just get the full retail version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I don't get why personal PC builders shouldn't just get the full retail version? Â I haven't yet seen a site explain the difference. Is it the number of computers you can install it on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I don't get why personal PC builders shouldn't just get the full retail version? Because it normally costs a fuckton more. Also best I can read this replaces both the normal retail version and weird requirements OEM version. You have Upgrade, OEM (proper), and thus personal builder one. Which makes sense (and works out cheaper). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I get that OEM is cheaper than full retail, and if in Windows 8 they're replacing the two personal-use versions with one personal-use version that makes sense, but going back to previous versions of windows, I still don't get why just because someone is building their own PC they (think they) should be getting a cheaper version of their OS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Because Microsoft sell a Windows license for folks building computers and they're building computers... Not like someone up for making their own PC from scratch is going to need the phone support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Because it costs less? I always bought OEM copies. I didn't even realize that I wasn't supposed to until just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 never mind... i think i'll leave this alone now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 If you're asking the question I think you're asking it's worth pointing out that MS has seemingly scrapped the traditional retail version in favour of this semi-OEM version. So the proper question should be "Why was MS charging 3 times as much for pretty much the exact same version of the OEM edition, with just a bit of phone support no one used anyway and a weird plastic box"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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