deanb Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Heck, if this beast comes out in 2012, I wonder how people will view the NGP. Given the rumoured specs put it slightly above par on a console from 2005 I'd struggle to call it a "beast". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyRan Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 If Nintendo has had huge success with low cost consoles why would they abandon that now? Because that tactic wasn't really sustainable. They can't keep selling the Wii's novelty to non-gamers forever, they have to eventually revert back to the people who've supported the industry for decades. Sure, the low-cost console tactic worked. Once. Doesn't mean it's going to work automatically in the future, and if Nintendo's smart they're not going to do the same thing again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Heck, if this beast comes out in 2012, I wonder how people will view the NGP. Given the rumoured specs put it slightly above par on a console from 2005 I'd struggle to call it a "beast". Recent articles have said it is "significantly more powerful" though. Previously, yeah, you're right. Now we have reason to estimate more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Heck, if this beast comes out in 2012, I wonder how people will view the NGP. Given the rumoured specs put it slightly above par on a console from 2005 I'd struggle to call it a "beast". Recent articles have said it is "significantly more powerful" though. Previously, yeah, you're right. Now we have reason to estimate more. Anyone ever upgrade from a Radeon X1000 to an HD4000 series graphics card? If the R700 GPU rumor pans out, that's the kind of leap from the 360 to Project Cafe that we'd be looking at (not to mention CPU and memory differences.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Nintendo's always sold their hardware at a profit, something different from most / every other manufacturer out there. Wouldn't be surprised to see this next console above the $300 mark. "$599 USD!!"? Maybe not, but definitely above the 360/PS3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Yeah, Nintendo makes their money off innovation and not expensive tech. I would be surprised to see them deviate from this model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyRan Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 (edited) Yeah, Nintendo makes their money off innovation and not expensive tech. I would be surprised to see them deviate from this model. This wouldn't be "deviating from the model", this is just them back to their old ways. The hardware's power is competitive, but then again the NES, SNES, N64, and GC were all graphically competitive for their time. And they're not just shoehorning super expensive tech on it, they're making some quirky twist to it, as with all the other consoles they've made. I'm looking at this and if the rumors are true, I honestly don't see what makes this any different from their old consoles. I have no idea why so many people think Nintendo's approach with the Wii was the approach they've been doing since the NES. It isn't. Edited April 26, 2011 by RockyRan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Well, it would still be a shift in the post GC Nintendo mantra. Nintendo has been targeting the casual market and has been very successful. To go back to the core market would be a shift in policy. I'm not against it but the problem with going back is that they're going to have to compete on all fronts methinks. Will the new Wii have the complete multimedia services of other consoles? Will it have a robust online system? Will it have competitive graphics with the next generation of systems? Will it cost $600? All of these things are generally something Nintendo has avoided over the last 5-10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Nintendo hasn't had a popular gamers console since since the SNES (arguably never have had since there wasn't the distinction then). I really don't know that they will ever repeat the success of the Wii-level sales. i think the playstation generation and teenagers won't buy into Nintendo and never will because of it's image. This is the FPS/sports games market. But as long as Nintendo remain profitable so can continue making hardware I'm happy, as I don't want another Sega on our hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Yeah Nintendo got great console sales and practically came from near death this gen by targeting an untapped market. Thing is it's pretty much turning out that that untapped market was untapped for a reason. They don't buy anything compared to the rest of the guys. Their console figures are amazing. Their finances are dropping like a stone though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Pfft, the Nintendo 64 wasn't a gamers console? Who had GoldenEye 007? Anyway, it's all about the games. The company has a say in their image, but games speak louder to consumers about a console and those who offer the titles. Think back to Microsoft and their entry into the gaming industry, the Xbox. Before launch, and perhaps was just my experience, but people were very skeptical of Microsoft coming in and facing off against Nintendo and Sony. "Haha... Microsoft, what do you think you're doing?" What no one expected was Halo, or really, the insanity it would spawn. In that instant, all the "bros" and jocks got into gaming because, "Dude, this Halo game kicks ass!" I feel like there have been some really good games on the Wii that have been overshadow because of the blockbuster hits on the 360 and PS3 front. I dunno, but does anyone realize Conduit 2 came out alongside Mortal Kombat and Portal 2? Yeah, not the best decision. Anyway, to [mis]quote Steve Ballmer... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8To-6VIJZRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Yeah, the N64 was a true gamer console. It was the cost of the carts that killed the N64 and Sony's ability to offer rock bottom development and publishing costs on their system made the PSX huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battra92 Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Yeah, the N64 was a true gamer console. It was the cost of the carts that killed the N64 and Sony's ability to offer rock bottom development and publishing costs on their system made the PSX huge. Indeed. Unfortunately the N64 and the GCN had fantastic games made by Nintendo and 2nd party devs (like Rare) but less great games from other devs. Plus when it came to multiplat it always seemed like third partys didn't want to compete with Nintendo so they took their games elsewhere or made rushed ports to the N64/GCN. I still say the GCN is the most underrated and undervalued console ever but the N64 isn't far behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Wait, if it sucks, how can it be underrated? You just said yourself it didn't have good 3rd party titles. And ugghhhh @ the term 2nd party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Wait, who said the Gamecube sucked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 "the n64 isn't far behind" right after a paragraph about how it wasn't very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 "the n64 isn't far behind" right after a paragraph about how it wasn't very good He said it was the most underrated, meaning that he likes the console. He did complain about fading third party support for much of the Gamecube's life though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 "Nintendo Feel" http://purenintendo.com/2011/05/02/rumor-nintendo-feel-new-wii-successor-details/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaunchOctopus Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Feel would be an awful name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Then named a console "Wii", nintendo can't do much worse with names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I think Wii is proof that people can get used to any name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaunchOctopus Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 True, console naming doesn't have the same impact it used to, where is the new Master System, I mean, it implies it could be the Master of all Systems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 If it's named Feel, I would like to create an advertisement with MGMT - Electric Feel (Justice Remix). For reference: YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyRan Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I think at this point we've moved on to a higher level of rumor, meaning the rumors are strong enough (at least from my perspective) to believe that the touchscreen-in-controller thing is real. Now it's a matter of seeing the "tactile feedback" thing on the controller, and the fact that many people are reporting the "Feel" name, whether it's a pre-release code name (Dolphin, Revolution, etc.) or the finalized name (which I doubt, given the fact that companies, Nintendo included, generally adopt a temporary name...Dolphin, Revolution, etc.) kind of gives a little more weight to the rumors. Again, this is pure conjecture. It's just that I feel (lulz) that the touchscreen on controller thing is real, partly because a whole lot of sources are now building rather strong rumors on top of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 The ever-wonderful Kotaku is reporting that the Wii "Feel" or Project Cafe will not have a hard disc drive, but instead will sport 8 gigs of flash memory as well as SD card expansion. It seems full downloadable games would be out of the question, then, though DLC and classic games would obviously still be viable. They are also reporting up to 25 gigs of storage on each Wii game disc. http://ca.kotaku.com/5797890/nintendos-next-console-will-enter-the-hd-era-but-not-the-hard+drive-era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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