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The power button is back in. I was reading about that earlier and some X-Box guy tweeted that there will be a power button, but I can't remember who it was that tweeted that.

 

Also; it seems Nintendo is kind of taking shots at Microsoft in their own ultra polite Nintendo kind of way...

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/13/4426338/nintendo-if-youre-worried-about-used-game-sales-make-better-games

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I believe they don't go down in price because they sell consistently. You don't have big first week sales on Nintendo games, but it'll sell just as well a year later as it did when it came out. I think it was Mario Kart DS or something like that that was in the top 10 in sales for almost a year but never actually hit first place.

 

 

They specifically call out devs and not Microsoft. This isn't just a XB1 issue.

 

Nintendo isn't one to name names or start shit, but if your company is talking used games sales right now you are most definitely referencing Microsoft's folly; whether that be directly or indirectly. They could have stopped the article at "Nintendo games don't get traded in as much", but it becomes "Nintendo games don't get traded in because they're better".

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This was one of the things people freaked out ago after the press conference a month ago and people saw the hardware. You guys are late on the hate train. :laugh:

 

I knew that you could turn it on with Kinect, with the implication it's always listening, but I didn't realize that was supposedly the only way to turn it on.

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Unless I'm mistaken Xbox and Apple support are both in Ireland. Though MS does have support centres in the subcontinent.

 

However all that said, they're unsure of what to do. You see their DRM is system-wide as in it's built into the system. Even their disclaimers suggest that publishers can opt out. You've built a system that actively negates sharing. It's not an opt-in, there's never any wording that suggests that. Systems and services are decided on long before a console is out. They'd been so forward thinking in their draconian measures that they never expected a backlash.

If you read recent interviews, the stuff they've been saying is hilarious. Hence my earlier comments of 'stop talking'. There's a recent interview where they've said their data says people will ignore everything and buy stuff. The protests are a vocal minority. They believe this and honestly can you blame them? Let's see we increased the fee of Xbox live by $10 - that okay? Sure np. Keep more things behind a paywall. Sure. Honestly their data suggested that whatever they did people wouldn't care so they didn't expect anyone to care. This sort of living room dominance was their plan when they launched. They just accelerated it.

 

Oh and the disclaimer suggests that their OS takes 'significant' amount of the 500GB. Note: Significant aka it's probably going to take about a tenth at the very least. Remember the backlash when surface pro was out? Of the 128GB only 83GB was available. It's a 128GB SSD it should've had about closer to 100 gigs. This is a 500GB HDD so let's remove the usual 20ish gigs that go and then the OS. I'm expecting that usable HDD space might be about 400Gigs which isn't a lot with mandatory installs.

 

Mind you, a lot of insiders suggest the console has yield issues. If that's the case and it's not resolved, be prepared for RROD pt2. Forget downclock rumours and everything. Yield issues are a greater problem considering it's to launch in 5 months.

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It's also short on memory due to running the OS, side apps and it has to have enough memory left over to put the console in standby within one second. Depending on what else the console is doing you can have as little as 30% memory to work with.

 

Also, total BS that they claim you have to check in every 24 hours because The Power of the Cloud. If the Xbone needed the cloud to operate checking in once a day wouldn't do shit.

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I'm just amazed this thing even made it out of the planning stages.  I mean, nobody stopped to think about how online drm, mandatory installs, and a camera you have to keep plugged in for the console to work might be a bad idea?  Nobody ever looked at the notes and said "What the fuck are we doing?  People are going to hate this."  It didn't occur to them for so long that they actually made it all the way to E3 with this piece of crap?  It defies logic how any company could possibly be so completely out of touch with its consumer base.

 

Also, fuck the "power of the cloud."  It's the biggest piece of gaming PR bullshit since sega's blast processing. 

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I'm just amazed this thing even made it out of the planning stages.  I mean, nobody stopped to think about how online drm, mandatory installs, and a camera you have to keep plugged in for the console to work might be a bad idea?  Nobody ever looked at the notes and said "What the fuck are we doing?  People are going to hate this."  It didn't occur to them for so long that they actually made it all the way to E3 with this piece of crap?  It defies logic how any company could possibly be some completely out of touch with its consumer base.

 

Also, fuck the "power of the cloud."  It's the biggest piece of gaming PR bullshit since sega's blast processing. 

 

Seeing as they had that one dude...Ortho?..Orthox?...whatever...spouting "Deal With It" a month or so before the reveal...I'd say they all were brainwashed from the inside out.

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The cloud is a company wide initiative. You don't even need to make images, just check out MS corporate and you'll see ridiculous branding for the cloud. MS believes in the cloud as a company-wide strategy to charge for more premium services. Azure is okay and all but come on.

 

Honestly most of the people in charge of the previous iterations of the console aren't there anymore. The Bone sorry Xbone is and always was a corporate machine. If this tanks, it'll be zuned No question about that. There will be a relaunch but I bet around that time both Nintendo and Sony will be able to charge less so this generation is going to be hard on them.

 

Vecha is right, this whole cloud business is a company-wide thing. They do sound brainwashed to some extent but they believe in the 'clowds'.

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