PC Gaming vs Console Gaming

[deanb]

So because this "majority" is dumb, the assumption from PC gamers, and you did say this in your previous comment, is therefore valid? That I as a console gamer, though I do play on the PC, should fall under your statement that I am less knowledgeable compared to the PC gamer.

 

 

If you feel yourself part of the majority then yes. majority =/= everyone. Don't take it so personally.

[CorgiShinobi]

So because this "majority" is dumb, the assumption from PC gamers, and you did say this in your previous comment, is therefore valid? That I as a console gamer, though I do play on the PC, should fall under your statement that I am less knowledgeable compared to the PC gamer.

If you feel yourself part of the majority then yes. majority =/= everyone. Don't take it so personally.

I think the same could be said for others as well, or maybe we're just too defensive of intangibles.

 

I'm not that old but having played games since 1983-84 gives me some odd perspective here . Like I keep saying, enthusiast gamers are a smaller bunch so we do need to stick together regardless of platforms and demand a bit more since the dev industry is what caused such a reaction amongst us.

I only quoted this bit because I like the summary, but going off of this, I totally agree with you WTF.

 

I was thinking last night if I should mention my few PC gamer friends as an example of the "enthusiasts" dilemma. It's anecdotal, but of the four, I would only say two of them are the type of gamers we represent ourselves online. One plays old PC games on disc, while the other kinda seems to go with the flow with whatever is available online. That last one I would still consider a gamer, but much like all the people with Xbox 360s and PS3s in my apartment complex, they're not going to have much knowledge of the industry and any relevant news.

 

E3 presented a good example of telling who is an enthusiast and who is not.

Edited July 2, 2011 by Atomsk88

[Yantelope]

Yeah I really like the word enthusiast. I totally agree that all of us enthusiasts should stick together.

[deanb]

 

Hail to the king baby (and in case anyone needs a refresher, it didn't come out on N64. I think Starcraft was it for PC ports on the N64)

[P4: Gritty Reboot]

Off the top of my head, Command & Conquer, Quake, Duke Nukem 3D all came out for N64.

[Strangelove]

What the fuck is an M2?

[deanb]

What the fuck is an M2?

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panasonic_M2

A cancelled console.

 

[Baconrath]

Off the top of my head, Command & Conquer, Quake, Duke Nukem 3D all came out for N64.

Also, Starcraft.

 

oops Dean beat me to it

Edited September 29, 2011 by Baconrath

[Yantelope]

Rainbow Six also got an N64 release.

[P4: Gritty Reboot]

Ah yes, Rainbow Six. Played that on both platforms.

[Yantelope]

Rainbow Six also got a PSX port and it was amazing in how bad it was.

 

[Yantelope]

Also:

Daikatana

HeXen

Quake 64

SimCity 2000

Worms Armageddon

 

http://s9.zetaboards.com/Nintendo_64_Forever/topic/7181038/1/

Edited September 29, 2011 by Yantelope

[Hot Heart]

And N64 gamers probably thought Carmageddon was a terrible series. Poor, misguided fools!

[deanb]

http://www.rockpaper...tching-pc-users

 

I Am Alive dev decides not to port to PC due to bitching, piracy and cos he wants to sell more than 50,000 units. As Walker sanely points out it has more chance of selling that much if it's ported than if it wasn't. And since it's Ubisoft they can DRM the hell out of the game. Though I'd wager that's more of a turn off than something to welcome gamers.

[Mal]

I Am Alive... Ubisoft. He (And Dean) is correct that I wouldn't buy the game on PC. Hell, the dev's remarks is off putting enough and I have a PS3/360 so... screw him and whatever games the company he's working for makes. Besides, I got bigger fishes to fry...

[TheMightyEthan]

That makes me sad. I was interested in that game.

 

Oh well, someone else can have my money then.

[WTF]

Let me explain what I presume the real reason for I am Alive not being on PC is. Ubisoft while okay with steam prefers to launch games through their launcher on the PC. I am alive is definitely not a great game. It's an okayish game and on top of that they'll be adding the UbiDRM. What that means is that there's two reasons people will not buy the game. It's not that yes everyone will pirate more like it's a terrible game with ubidrm that will lead to piracy. There's been gameplay footage floating around for quite a while now and honestly it's a frankenstein project from the looks of it. It's changed studios many times, it's had other issues. They decided not to release it etc. They're not going to sell this game for cheap but if they sell it for $10-15 on XBLA and PSN even if only 50k people bought it - that would offset just releasing it whereas if they did release it on the PC like they intend to, it's going to be received worse. Face it, a terrible game gets pirated because of curiousity unless it's on steam.

 

It's nothing to do with PC being a high piracy platform, for instance skyrim is most pirated on the 360 more than any other platform; it's just that the way ubi would probably release it is not conducive to it selling well. So it sounds like he's mouthing off because he can't really release it a decent way that PC consumers would buy it and has less decision power. Ubisoft's release for this would be similar to From Dust which was a decent game and this isn't. From Dust sold a bit low (barely was in the top 20 steam chart for over a month during a slow period).

 

I believe it's being released more as a lets get it out of the way since everyone keeps talking about it and won't shut up.

[Alex Heat]

Since Dean linked the thread to me...

 

I use a computer to play all the crazy indie games, RPGs, RTSes and any Valve game, but I use a console for practically everything else.

 

This about sums it up for me (sans RPGs, I guess). Though I would tell you straight up that I would greatly prefer using a controller for just about any game (yes, even shooters...but not RTSes), I can't argue with the power of Steam sales and have double dipped on a couple purchases.

 

For the most part, if a game is multi-plat and has multiplayer, odds are good that I will get the 360 version over the PS3 and PC versions due to me knowing more people I actively game with (especially fighting games). If I get a single-player game (that is, you know, actually worth buying), I'll get it for which is cheapest.

 

With the amount of games that are okay, but not really worth buying, I am still pretty glad that I can just rent something, beat it in a couple days then forget all about it.

[Mister Jack]

Lately for big releases I've been getting the console version because they still cost 60 bucks on the PC but you can't sell them back when you're done with them. There are some exceptions (Borderlands 2) but I see no reason that I would want a lot of these other games (Max Payne 3, Fall of Cybertron) in my possession forever.

[TheMightyEthan]

I prefer a controller for pretty much everything except RTS and shooters (and sometimes RPGs depending on how the interface is designed), so I just use a controller on my PC.

 

@Jack: If you don't want them forever why buy them at all? Why not just rent them?

[madbassman39]

I don't oc game because my laptop is useless for gaming and something always goes wrong. I have an Xbox and a PS3 and generally prefer playing with a controller. I bought a wired xbox controller that I used on a few games on my laptop and I thought it was tits.

 

Now I'm buying a gaming pc and will be jumping back into that scene by the end of the month and I can't wait!

 

I would argue that console gaming is more accessible due to the fact that the hard ware never needs to be upgraded, but I think that's common knowledge. I will buy a lot of games on consoles still because that's where my friends will be, but I can't wait to get a gaming rig!

[TheMightyEthan]

Console gaming definitely has a HUGE convenience/ease-of-use factor going for it.

[MasterDex]

Console gaming definitely has a HUGE convenience/ease-of-use factor going for it.

 

For sure. However, I think the argument that madbassman makes, and which many before him have made, isn't relevant today. Individual consoles don't need to be upgraded (unless you're talking about storage perhaps) yet the same can also be said for the individual PC. I think that's something a lot of people don't realise.

 

As an example, let's say I was to build a new system when the advent of the next generation consoles roll around. Now, if I go bare minimum then yes, there's a likelihood that I'll want to upgrade before the following generation of consoles hit stores. Will I need to upgrade? Possibly, but possibly not. The system I have now has lasted me nearly seven years. Granted, hardware failure meant replacing the gpu, motherboard and cpu over the course of that time, but those failures came from a)a lapse in maintenance and b)an unfortunate event. Hardware failures happen on consoles too however and I can guarantee it's cost some people more money to replace their consoles than it's cost me to repair my PC.

 

I'm veering off point however. A well-built and well maintained system will last as long as a console generation, even outlasting it, albeit with diminishing returns, without the need to upgrade - the want to upgrade is another matter entirely. Though it pains me to say it, it's largely thanks to the increased focus on console development this generation. With the PC version of games and PC games in general not aiming at high-end systems, upgrading your PC is no longer the necessity it was in the 90's.

 

That said, you do need to look after a PC much more than you do a console but that's true of any PC; laptop or desktop, low-end or high-end.

[Mister Jack]

 

@Jack: If you don't want them forever why buy them at all? Why not just rent them?

 

Well for starters, my only option around here right now is Redbox and the selection isn't exactly awe-inspiring. Beyond that, I like being able to play games at my own pace. Unless we're talking something that's 5 to 8 hours long, I prefer not to have to rush through something because I'm worried about having to pay late fees.

[Faiblesse Des Sens]

GameFly then?