Luftwaffles Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 All complaining aside, Origin attachment probably isn't going to affect my decision to purchase BF3. Because you'll get it for xbox? Haha, no, because I love good games enough to jump through hoops to play them. Me too, for the most part. That being said, if BC2 keeps a strong community (and doesn't get it servers prematurely shut down) I'll probably just keep playing that until A) something changes with Origin and EA or BF3 goes on Steam or B) BF3 gets really cheap. Option A probably might never happen, but if it does I'm thinking I'll probably just buy it full price if I can to support that decision if it does ever happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Haha, no, because I love good games enough to jump through hoops to play them. If the Alpha gameplay is any indication of the final product, this is just Bad Company 2.5, except with all the good things taken out and some really weird shit put into the game instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I'm going to wait on this personally. I'm not entirely against Origin and I haven't really thought it out if my bit of dislike is "AHHHHH ANOTHER SERVICE" , "EA IS THE DEVIL" or if I actually have a legitimate reason to be disliking it. Either way, I don't buy much of anything on launch to begin with so I'll see how this plays out. Both the quality of the game and the service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I hope there's an open beta sort of thing for me to see how it is. Back when BC2 had it, I had a blast... but with me hearing stuff like Vargras is saying... hrmm. I might just take it as people really comparing it to BF2 and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I'm not happy about the need to have Origin installed and I've heard some disconcerting things from people about BF3 but my love for the series is too great to avoid it so I know I'm gonna give in to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Looks like you won't be able to change your name in the game. You only get one Player Profile, and that's tied to your Origin name. http://www.destructoid.com/battlefield-3-limited-to-one-profile-per-player-208677.phtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Looks like you won't be able to change your name in the game. You only get one Player Profile, and that's tied to your Origin name. http://www.destructo...er-208677.phtml Might help cut down on hacks and grievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Looks like you won't be able to change your name in the game. You only get one Player Profile, and that's tied to your Origin name. http://www.destructo...er-208677.phtml Somewhat unrelated, but... Yeah, that's unfortunate. I accidentally set my Origin name to my real name instead of some random ones (defaults to your email minus the @ handle) and then ragequit the program when it wouldn't let me change it. The EA livechat mocked not knowing what I was talking about so I guess it stays. It doesn't seem that difficult for EA to just put some box in Origin about changing names, even if you have to have a reason for changing it or it's not immediate. Minor bitchiness on my part, but if you're going to stick someone to a single profile you might as well at least give them the chance to change it subtly, even if it does have to be through EA Chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyRan Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 AFAIK there wasn't really any purpose to having multiple soldiers in the game, was there? Other than wanting to completely restart your soldier progress from scratch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 And to screw around. I never done so myself but I could see it being being nice to have. Having one profile does suck though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 And to screw around. I never done so myself but I could see it being being nice to have. Having one profile does suck though... AFAIK there wasn't really any purpose to having multiple soldiers in the game, was there? Other than wanting to completely restart your soldier progress from scratch... I think it makes sense to at least give the option for more than one. In my case, I moved BC2 to my new computer and for some reason EA lost all my previous soldier stats, requiring me to start over from level 0. It wasn't a big deal (I actually liked unlocking all the weapons again) but it could be an underhanded way of setting up a one-machine activation system for the multiplayer if your one soldier is tied to your machine rather than your account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Ea have been pretty fair in that regard in the past though. I've been using the same username since BF2 and as long as the fuckers allow me to use the same name (MasterDex) I'll be happy enough. PS. If any of you fuckers prevent me from getting that name for BF3, I will hunt ye down and wear ye're skin for a dress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 I talked about this in chat with harri. I'm not mad at EA. I'm not happy either. Honestly thats about it. Sure its got its flaws, but its not really pissing me off either. That's the major problem with Origin. Valve has almost perfected the digital download service, its all there for anyone to use. Valve also makes games that compete for your purchases with other companies, Valve gets a % of the money that we use to purchase a game on steam. Why would you want your competition to get money off of your product? Steam isn't like the PSN or Xbox Live where its the only service you can have to play a game on your system. EA wants a piece of that pie, and it makes sense. What EA didn't do, is look at what it is that people love about Steam. I mean its like they didn't care to make us want to switch over to Origin. To me, its like Valve cooked you your favorite food, and EA cooked you plain chicken and veggies. Sure its not the worst food you'll eat, but they really didn't try to make it any better than it needed to be. Origin isn't good. It's not terrible (the interface isn't bad at all), but still not good. EA didn't try with Origin, they just did. They threw it out there thinking that having a service is enough, but compared to Steam its not preferable. As far as making BF3 use origin only, I can't blame them. Valve games are only sold digitally on Steam and require you to use Steam. Sure it would probably sell better if it was available through Steam too, but they are entering the ring with Steam, but aren't really trying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Sales of the game would be higher... but the Origin only move is for DLC. They've talked about supporting the game for a long time... and that just means you keep paying them for DLC over time. That's where they want this to be a real money maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 To me, its like Valve cooked you your favorite food, and EA cooked you plain chicken and veggies. Sure its not the worst food you'll eat, but they really didn't try to make it any better than it needed to be. That's the best analogy I've heard about this so far. Steam is far from a perfect application (Origin is actually far more stable), but there are certain things about Origin that just irk me to no end. You can't change your name/handle after your first login (which I've mentioned here before) and you have to choose from stock avatars EA provides. If Origin was better than Steam as a program and service, I'd probably be happy to use it in place of Steam for my EA games, but at the moment there is no real benifit to Origin over Steam other than it looks like BF3 will be on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 The other problem with Origin is that it's never going to sell Activision games or Ubisoft games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) The other problem with Origin is that it's never going to sell Activision games or Ubisoft games. What if it did? EDIT: I mean, there's no reason for EA not to sell Activision's games through Origin, and if EA were to take a smaller cut than Steam, there would be nothing for Activision to lose, I don't think it's as out there an idea as it first appears, especially if Activision or Ubi or whoever have no intention of creating a Digital Distribution platform of their own. Edited August 15, 2011 by Thursday Next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Okay, it's not going to happen any time in the near future. Sonic has been on a Nintendo console so hell hath frozen over before but as it currently stands I don't have a desire to install a DRM distribution client from every single publisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Yeah I'm hoping most other publishers are still quite happy to stick with the current DD channels than make their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 http://www.develop-online.net/news/38470/Newell-We-have-to-convince-EA-to-come-back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I suppose that's better than saying "Screw you EA!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Rat Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) Well, since someone was bound to post this sooner or later: http://www.reddit.co...ches_you_sleep/ From the link: Taken directly from their EULA: You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol 37683v1 Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services. EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION.[/indent] Source Since we already have seen Origins EULA, what about Steam? Taken directly from Steam's EULA: "User Generated Information" means any information made available to other users through your use of multi-user features of Steam or to Valve through your use of the Software. User Generated Information may include, but is not limited to, chat, forum posts, screen names, game selections, player performances, usage data, suggestions about Valve products or services, and error notifications. Subject to the Valve privacy policy referenced in Section 1 above, as applicable, you expressly grant Valve the complete and irrevocable right to use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and without any notice or compensation to you of any kind.[/indent] Source Edited August 23, 2011 by Cyber Rat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 (edited) The difference here is that Steam is collecting data on how you use steam. It's not collecting data on your computer in general. I do find it a bit insidious that EA would want to go through what all games you have installed, maybe investigate what you're doing on steam, perhaps report back any illicit installations, who knows. It seems like you're quickly getting to the point where you're offering real genuine incentives to pirate EA games. Perhaps you'll be able to get an Origin free version of BF3. It's kind of like how if you pirate a movie you get to bypass all those 15 unskippable trailers ads and FBI warnings. Why do companies like EA like to punish paying customers so much? Edited August 24, 2011 by Yantelope 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 If only we had some kind of lawyer person working for EA to ask about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 I agree with Yante. That said, the bit in the steam EULA where they say they can present the information "with or without attribution to you" doesn't sit too well with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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