deanb Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/38379/EA_CFO_Touts_Origins_Advantage_Over_Valves_Steam.php "[Valve has] done a very nice job... it provides a pretty good customer experience," said Brown, replying to an investor's question. However, he noted that Origin offers the entire EA portfolio, while Steam relies on third-party releases. "We already have high-quality third party publishers," he said, "and we're going to have more third-party content like Steam over time." lolol. Iv'e seen this pop up a few times in Twitter, with the general lines of "but Steam has valve games". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 "He also noted that the average revenue per paying Origin user is currently between $45-50." That would be a copy of BF3 then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Is it still veritable spyware? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Se that's where the difference is between a company with investors and a company without. Company with investors brags to the investors the prices are so high. Company without doesn't even really hit double digits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Is it still veritable spyware? It's not spyware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 I think what Tenshi is asking is does it still scan your computer and does the EULA still have the terms that it's okay to do that. Obviously Origin isn't Spyware, it just acts that way. Same as Sony DADCs old DRM wasnt' a rootkit, it just acted that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Oh, so when he used the inflammatory term "Is it still veritable spyware?" he actually meant: "Do the game and the Origin client still collect totally anonymous, unidentifiable, telemetry data for the sole purpose of identifying the causes of errors in the software with certain hardware configurations so that EA can provide fixes for those errors ensuring a better user experience for all?" In which case, yes, it does still do that. Also, technically speaking, Origin doesn't "scan your computer". Windows does and reports out to Origin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Yeah that, the same thing most other programs handle like so: And only do it when you actually have an error, not when you install the client. Also it's Origin doing it, Windows has it's own service for error reports, if the windows service was doing it people wouldn't be moaning about Origin scanning their PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) Didn't mean anything bad by using the word spyware. If I'm being venomous, you'll know. I went to start Origin before posting that and thought "let's ask first". Guess I'll take another look around the internet. Edited November 10, 2011 by Saturnine Tenshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovach_ Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Ok, so Origin just logged me out while i was playing BF3 saying i logged in from another computer, which i did not. My Origin password was the same as the one i was using on Steam before that hack thing the other day. Maybe it's an Origin bug (i haven't looked into it) or maybe the two are related, i don't know, just giving people a heads up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/14/ea-forum-bans-are-still-affecting-games/ EA forum bans are still meaning you get banned from your games :/ “Please note that your account has been permanently terminated from the Electronic Arts Online service for violating the terms of services. The account will no longer be accessible in any way, and all property, items, and characters associated currently are or will soon be deleted.” Also Origin is this old already? Damn time flies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Now that is just plain shitty. It's actually making me sympathize with pirates, and when that happens something isn't right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel_excel Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Why don't they just have separate forums like Valve do? I can't believe this is actually still happening. Very poor on EA's part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Geez, what if a moderator don't like someone at all and find some BS reason to ban someone? They can't even dispute it since EA support is not help at all... Really... I really want to play BF3. Sure its not Dice's fault but with them being tied to EA and these insane practices... eh. $20 before I even consider BF3... I'll bump it up to $30 if they fix this shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted November 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 They're citing repeated infractions of the ToS. EA don't do themselves any favours by not commenting, but you do only have one side of the story there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 As it stands now, we have no idea what part(s) of the ToS they violated. Okay, perhaps you can nail Nick on something related to being a dick but the other folks are in the "WTF?" zone. What have they done to deserve such bans from their games? Hell, even dick Nick shouldn't have been banned from all his games and especially being totally locked out from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted November 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 It's possible that there are other infractions not related to the forum, a lot of people are coming to EA's attention for stat padding etc. In BF3. It could be that there were a couple of infractions in game and the forum post was the final straw. Like I say, we've not got the whole story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Well there you go EA gave a response http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/17/eas-unwieldy-banhammer-ea-responds/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 A level of integrity on their forums? Have they read the battlelog forums lately? Filled with asshats that would be better off banned from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) TIL that Origin/EA are horrible in sending out shipout email. Haven't gotten it yet but... I got my game. Also, that EA most likely contracted out UPS SCS to warehouse their stuff. No wonder why its so slow on notifying... Edited December 1, 2011 by MaliciousH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.328868-EA-now-issuing-permanent-Origin-bans-through-content-filter?page=1 You need to click the first link for the original post. It's all pretty bad. Long n skinny is an automated system banned one dudes EA forum account (n therefore his Origin and seemingly EA-in-general accounts) because someone else called him a "NOOB B---- C---". As I said on twitter the main solution to this is basically to either not use EA's forum, or to not purchase EA games at all until their policy with regards to forum bans is clarified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 No point in buying their games if they're just going to throw a tantrum and remove access to them like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maritan Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Wait, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 It's fake, try the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maritan Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 It's fake, try the link. I'm actually surprised by the amount of fake bans and "trolling" connected with EA and Origin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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