Yantelope Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 So, once again, cool tech demos but show us some real games. I think the tech is very neat but I'm just curious to see how this works with actual games. It has possibilities though. I'm very concerned that the hardware will be under powered. This thing needs to be at least more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PS3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyRan Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 It's kind of neat tech, but I'm not impressed overall. They did a horrendous job at the initial sales pitch, switching between saying "controller" and "console", not showing the actual console, initially showing Wii-level graphics, etc. For the longest time I thought this was just another add-on. I only realized that it was a new console when they started showing current-gen 3rd party titles, but to be honest that wasn't a good way for me to find out. Showing games that will be freely available (or in the case of Dirt 3, ALREADY are available) on the 360, PS3 and PC isn't doing anything to sell me on spending more money on a new Nintendo console. Show me something completely new, don't try to sell me on something I can already buy for my other platforms. All in all, it wasn't bad, but it was ultimately disappointing. I wasn't expecting Nintendo to show off much, but what they did show was doing just the bare minimum for me. They're only now catching up with the 360, a console released in 2005. That's nothing to be proud of. The potential is there due to the touchscreen controller but "potential" doesn't sell for me. I need to see games. Real games, that WILL be released, that DO look good, that DO release and are sitting there on the shelves. Until that happens I'm not jumping on any bandwagons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 How are they going to sell WiiU to kids? They will destroy those controllers and those things are going to cost over $100 for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Im just wondering how much it costs. lets be honest here, theyre getting cocky. The Wii was really great AND cheap because of the "failure" of the Gamecube. But now that the Wii was a success, theyve made.....this...thing. I personally still think the 3DS is too expensive, so I can only guess how much this Wii U is going to cost. Less than 400 dollars for sure though....right? After Sony tried that and failed, no one would dare do that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Apparently a dev from DICE is saying that it's less powerful than the 360. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) Apparently a dev from DICE is saying that it's less powerful than the 360. Fail. They can't sell it for more than $400 because nobody spends more than that but I bet for $400 they could get a pretty darn good console and one controller together if Nintendo goes that route if they go the $250 route this thing is going to suck. Edited June 7, 2011 by Yantelope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicariousShaner Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Apparently a dev from DICE is saying that it's less powerful than the 360. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432939 Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 So, we hate on gaming journalists but non-gaming journalists reporting on gaming are still far worse. WSJ is calling the new Wii a tablet. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304432304576371513599611124.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLETopStories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyaruson Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I seriously don't get what all the hate is about... They didn't show anything other than the controller, because the system probably won't come out for another year or longer. The only reason they announced anything at this E3 is because they want great 3rd party support, and you can't keep a very good secret if you're sending dev kits all across the globe. The controller looks slick. Is it hard to hold a book, a plate, or a magazine? No, of course not. It won't be hard to hold this thing either. I think the possibilities are very good, but it is disappointing that they didn't have anything concrete to show along with the controller, but that just goes along with how far out the system is. The system is obviously more powerful than a Xbox 360 or PS3. If I had to guess, it would be the equivalent of a high-end, current computer, because of how cheap those parts are to manufacture nowadays. The name is... dumb, but I get that too. They've made a quite a name for themselves with the Wii, specifically regarding casual gamers. If moms and pops hear that a new Wii has come out, that will mean a lot more to them than if they hear that the Stream just came out. I'm optimistic, but not getting my hopes too high. The support from people like EA and Ken Levine is great - GREAT - but only time will tell if it is actually going to be fruitful. Seriously people, just give it time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I'm pretty surprised they went with an IBM chip still. Probably they're trying to preserve hardware compatibility with Wii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyaruson Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 They've always had a good working relationship with IBM. I'd honestly be surprised if they ever went any other direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Well, in terms of development it just seems like most things outside of mobile are going the x86-64 route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 The controller looks uncomfortable, but it definitively has potential, definitively looking forward to how developers will implement the screen and the other features in the controller for games like Metro Last Light, Darksiders 2 and Ninja Gaiden 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) You could use it to do trauma center on your ninja gaiden victims. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-wii-u/715112 not bad but really not impressive at all. Edited June 7, 2011 by Yantelope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Yeah, that bird demo looked merely normal. Not impressive by any stretch of the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyaruson Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 The bird demo was alright, not great. I can't decide if it was the stream I was seeing, or just being underwhelmed. Although, the AC: Revelations pre-rendered trailer looked amazing, and it was from the same stream. @Cave: Everyone who has gone hands-on with the controller has already said that it is surprisingly comfortable to hold, also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 The controller doesn't seem that bad to me. I don't need to fit it into my pocket. If I can reach all the buttons without stretching my fingers out and it doesn't cramp my hand, it could be shaped like a pretzel for all I care. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I'm interested, but right now I think Nintendo wanted to show their intention rather than blow peoples' minds. Later on, and at next E3, we should definitely see what the console has to offer. Right now, it just seemed like Nintendo wanted to make a claim like, "We know our entire audience, and we're going to provide a balance." I mean, they went from Miis to Death from Darkstalkers bursting through a wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 @Cave: Everyone who has gone hands-on with the controller has already said that it is surprisingly comfortable to hold, also. Awesome! \m/ \m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMW Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 The Wii U is looking at a launch after E3 next year. They say it's "a year or more away". Traditionally, consoles launch in the holiday season. Nintendo does better in the holiday season than others because of casuals. The Wii U won't show up until August/September of 2012, take my word for it. The real story of the show was the 3DS software lineup. Sony wowed the world with cool hardware and an impressive price point. Nintendo has less impressive hardware and a less impressive price point. Sony did not show many games for the Vita. The only chance Nintendo has here is to have an incredible holiday season. They need the 3DS to sell. No, they need the 3DS to sell out. Honestly, I can't imagine them doing much more than they are: Zelda OoT Super Mario Mario Kart Luigi's Mansion Kid Icarus Starfox 64 I mean, these are the Big Guns. These are remakes of the best of Zelda (arguably) and the best of Starfox (less arguably). These are the franchises that sell millions and sometimes tens of millions. Sure, I'd have preferred to see Fire Emblem, Paper Mario, and Advance Wars, but those are second tier franchises. So is Metroid sadly enough. (Other M didn't even break a million outside of Japan. Prime 3 BARELY did.) Nintendo isn't messing around with their second tier franchises. They're hitting with everything they've got. Even Pokemon is making a downloadable appearance. Question: will this be enough? Can they get a large enough head start? My gut feeling is no. It's pretty good though, and the consumer wins regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 (edited) I don't buy that "generation" behind load. The Wii is still a seventh generation console, and if anything (like Reggie said), the Wii brought motion controls to the industry which Sony and Microsoft eventually picked up. At least Microsoft had the decency to innovate, but then again, we saw where the Kinect is just yesterday. Except Sony had sixaxis not all that great, but still and before that they had the eye toy. Edited June 8, 2011 by Hakidia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMW Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 The other big story of this show are the things that Nintendo DIDN'T talk about. They didn't talk about a new online strategy, and they didn't talk about any RPGs. My gut feeling is that if Nintendo was actually investing in making a real online service, they would have told us about it. I also feel like if Xenoblade or The Last Story or Layton vs. Phoenix were coming to the US, they would have told us. This show was very focused on the hardcore, so if these producst/services were coming this would have been the perfect time to tell us about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I don't buy that "generation" behind load. The Wii is still a seventh generation console, and if anything (like Reggie said), the Wii brought motion controls to the industry which Sony and Microsoft eventually picked up. At least Microsoft had the decency to innovate, but then again, we saw where the Kinect is just yesterday. Except Sony had sixaxis not all that great, but still and before that they had the eye toy. The Sixaxis always seemed more like previous tilt-oriented control. After all, you were on an "axis." If we considered that, tilt goes even further back. Eye Toy never got proper support, and now the PS Eye seems to merely exist to make Move operate. Not a bad cause, but it has shifted to another form of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 The PXOD round table is up. http://www.pressxordie.com/2011/06/08/round-table-nintendo-e3-2011/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 (edited) The Sixaxis always seemed more like previous tilt-oriented control. After all, you were on an "axis." If we considered that, tilt goes even further back. Eye Toy never got proper support, and now the PS Eye seems to merely exist to make Move operate. Not a bad cause, but it has shifted to another form of control. Wii controller works on 3 axises and except for the pointing is pretty much the exact same as sixaxis. Move is much better than the wiimote anyhow. Edited June 9, 2011 by Hakidia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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