Strangelove Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Its actually 60 bucks on both Gamestop and Amazon now. Its robbery, but that Nintendo "premium" theyve been doing for the past god knows how many years doesnt seem to bother anyone, so I guess it's really a nonissue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Really? Hell, I'm glad I preordered it at $50 then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Nintendo says it won't be cutting prices on the Wii U any time soon because Nintendo is already taking a loss on each unit sold. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-08-07-nintendo-still-selling-wii-u-at-a-loss I do wonder why the article gets the Wii U prices wrong. Isn't the 32Gb option $350 and the 8GB cruel joke option $300? Good luck, Wii U. You're gonna need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Yeah, its MSRP is $350 for the Deluxe and $300 for the Basic. The fact that they're not willing to take a bigger loss in order to increase the install base tells me they probably already consider it a failure and are likely abandoning it relatively quickly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Either that or they are collectively living in make-believe fairy tale land where the kids all beg their parents for a Wii U for Christmas and the Xbox One and PS4 don't exist and everyone really wants to buy a Wii U at full price but they are just waiting for the right time and every time Mario jumps an angel gets its wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Yeah, its MSRP is $350 for the Deluxe and $300 for the Basic. The fact that they're not willing to take a bigger loss in order to increase the install base tells me they probably already consider it a failure and are likely abandoning it relatively quickly. I'm not sure how you can arrive at that conclusion. They profit if someone buys it and a game. It's certainly not doing great but they might be treading water just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Considering that, why NOT cut the price? Even if you cut it so that buying a console and a game only breaks even, that's still something. I mean, who the fuck is going to buy a new console and then not buy a game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 If it costs $390 to make and you profit when you sell the console for $350 and a game so a $400 total if you drop the price you'd be losing money again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I worry they're not reducing the price because they think it will sell at that price when they release mario world/kart etc. That may (big may) have been true if this was happening at launch but in the face of XO and PS4 and even the Wii, it's just not a compelling offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 If Nintendo were truly planning to abandon the Wii U, there'd be a fire sale to just liquidate the inventory to recoup what they can. Nintendo's Wii U strategy is to hold on through the end of 2014, I reckon. They believe they're playing the long game and, although they fucked up the launch, they want to see if the Wii U will catch ona t this price point rather than at a lower price point. I think Nintendo does not want the Wii U to be the bargain-basement console the Wii was. *Why* that is, is beyond me, since the Wii was terrible yet made Nintendo a shitload of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 If that's what they wanted then they shouldn't have designed it to be so fucking weak in the hardware department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Word. Nintendo fucked up. I think we can all agree on that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I'm not even trying to be a hater here. I WANT to like the Wii U. I want to want to buy the Wii U and have fun playing Nintendo games on it like I have in the past, but they are just making it SO FUCKING HARD FOR ME TO KEEP LIKING THEM! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 This had to be the most annoying as shit console Ive ever had to deal with. The set up has taken hours because it just wont stay connected to wifi to update the firmware or to even set up a Nintendo network ID. I got it at 10am today and its 4pm and I finally have created the id and updated the firmware. The firmware wasnt even that big, it just kept disconnecting every minute. The wifi in this thing is a huge piece of shit. Every single device I own, including the 3DS and the original Wii connected flawlessly to the wifi....this one not so much. I even had to look up online to find a way to fix it and lo and behold I wasnt the only person with this problems. Tons of people. Theres even a Kotaku article about it. Is this even something they can fix with a firmware or is the wifi just fucked? Its like they just dont want money. They fuck themselves over in the most basic ways. They dont have a real online account system, their eshop games are overpriced, the games people really want arent on there AND the wifi sucks so that i cant even connect to their eshop. Fuck you Nintendo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 If Nintendo were truly planning to abandon the Wii U, there'd be a fire sale to just liquidate the inventory to recoup what they can. Nintendo's Wii U strategy is to hold on through the end of 2014, I reckon. Well when I said abandon relatively soon, I meant in the next 2-3 years. Soon in terms of console generations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 According to Iwata, Nintendo's magic comes from integrating hardware and software. Then where the fuck is my software? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 It takes a very long time to re-skin old Zelda and Mario games, Ethan. Be patient, and you'll get a slightly higher definition version of all your favorite Nintendo franchises. Just don't think about how, under that friendly, shiny exterior, there is no soul any longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Don't forget how long it takes to translate Mario games. "Hup!" "Wuh!" "Yahoooo!" "Waaaaaaaaaa!" these complex phrases are not just overnight, stick it in Google Translate jobs. They need to be crafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 "Mario number one!" Im really tired of hearing him, Toad(s) and Peach talk/make noises. Luigi and Yoshi I can tolerate. Plus, the guy who does Mario's voice is super creepy. he seems like a decent man, but he loves his job too much. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconrath Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 A Metroid game for the WiiU would be the cats pjs... ...just don't give it to Team Ninja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I actually really liked the gameplay of Other M, just didn't need all "the baby" garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Heat Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I thought everything that was wrong with Other M, gameplay and otherwise, was all the fault of Sakamoto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) There's a wonderful 101 demo up today. edit: here the new Nintendo Direct for it: Edited August 9, 2013 by TheFlyingGerbil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMW Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I thought everything that was wrong with Other M, gameplay and otherwise, was all the fault of Sakamoto. It's interesting, this isn't the first I've seen this mentality. There are those who would be THRILLED if Smash Brothers was taken away from it's progenitor so Sakurai would stop "ruining the franchise". And yes, a lot of the things that people didn't like in Metroid Other M came directly from Mr. Sakamoto, also known as the guy who made metroid. I tend to be unsympathetic to such views. Regardless of what product comes from it, I wish I lived in a world where games could be a reflection of individuals, and if those individuals change or were never happy with what everyone else thought of as a "masterpiece" then they should keep chasing that original muse. Better that these games release and are polarizing and reflect the auteurs who came up with them than that they get absorbed into the homogenized whole of Nintendo EAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Heat Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I thought everything that was wrong with Other M, gameplay and otherwise, was all the fault of Sakamoto. It's interesting, this isn't the first I've seen this mentality. There are those who would be THRILLED if Smash Brothers was taken away from it's progenitor so Sakurai would stop "ruining the franchise". And yes, a lot of the things that people didn't like in Metroid Other M came directly from Mr. Sakamoto, also known as the guy who made metroid. I tend to be unsympathetic to such views. Regardless of what product comes from it, I wish I lived in a world where games could be a reflection of individuals, and if those individuals change or were never happy with what everyone else thought of as a "masterpiece" then they should keep chasing that original muse. Better that these games release and are polarizing and reflect the auteurs who came up with them than that they get absorbed into the homogenized whole of Nintendo EAD. Sakamoto's only one third of Metroid though! There's still Satoru Okada (granted, he's stuck doing handheld stuff now) and Gunpei Yokoi (RIP!). I don't have a problem with the idea of a game being a reflection of an individual, but that also doesn't mean an individual should be immune to criticism or feedback from anyone else. If the rest of the team wanted to use the nunchaku in conjunction with the Wii remote while Sakamoto was needlessly adamant about 'the simplicity of only using the Wii remote', let the feedback from play testing speak for itself. Sometimes dumb ideas are just dumb and there's no excusing it. Based on the interviews floating around the interbutts, Sakamoto sounds like one of those guys who wants things his way and anyone who disagrees 'just doesn't understand his grand vision'. We all know how those guys tend to work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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