Faiblesse Des Sens Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I'm making the point that their "sources" sound like one very unreliable individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredEffinChopin Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 With so many next-gen console rumors running around, it's a real shame that not a single one of them sounds any good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I'm making the point that their "sources" sound like one very unreliable individual. Well yeah, that's why I put it in "sources" like so. Wouldn't surprise me if most sources are "hey frank, what do you think the Wii U will be like?" "oi Mike, what do you think will be in the PS4?", etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Early in the article they did explicitly say that at least one of the statements was confirmed by a separate source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 That'll be Janet just further on down the office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) I don't really care how "powerful" it is, as long as there's strong 1st party games in the first few years, and some interesting 3rd party support as well. Nintendo will always be "the other" console to Sony/Microsoft, so as long as they do something completely different, like they did with the Wii, I'll be happy to own one. That said, I'd love a trophy system, and my Virtual Console purchases to transfer over. Downloadable GameCube/Wii games in HD would be AWESOME as well. Edited April 3, 2012 by TheCowboyPoet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I really hope they have a better way than the transfer malarkey they have on the 3DS, where you physically have to have your new and old console with you. It is so stupid: what if you bought a new console because you lost your old one or it doesn't work? Or heavens forbid you want to trade in your old version for a new one so you don't own both of them at the same time. The most annoying thing is my 3DS account is linked to my Club Nintendo Account so they have a list of the games I own on their servers, I don't know why when I get a new piece of hardware I can't just register that to my account too and let me download the games, it could even disable them on the previous console if they ever detected it connecting to the internet, that wouldn't bother me. I know I'm definitely going to get the WIiU, most likely at or very near launch, and I nothing about the hardware specs. or even the launch line-up would stop me, but this stupid game transfer fudge is the one grey cloud that looms over the ever sunny mushroom kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 most likely at or very near launch, and I nothing about the hardware specs. or even the launch line-up would stop me Wait... what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMW Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Yep. The new rumors about Wii U graphics prowess are about what everyone should have expected. Low tech and cheap to produce. Why? Because Nintendo used that strategy with the Wii and DS and those consoles made them billions upon billions of dollars. There is clearly a large market that isn't bothered terribly if their machine is producing the most cutting edge visuals available on the market. Those people likely don't hang around on X-talk too much. I expect the reaction from individuals here to be overwhelmingly negative. What will be much more interesting is seeing how the overall market (read: everybody) reacts to the device and which parts of the market do/do not purchase it. Honestly if these rumors turn out to be unfounded and the Wii U is actually any kind of powerhouse or even competitive in the graphics game I would be shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Yep. The new rumors about Wii U graphics prowess are about what everyone should have expected. Low tech and cheap to produce. Why? Because Nintendo used that strategy with the Wii and DS and those consoles made them billions upon billions of dollars. There is clearly a large market that isn't bothered terribly if their machine is producing the most cutting edge visuals available on the market. I'd just be worried that the Wii U doesn't have the wow factor that the motion controls in the original Wii had. The way I see it, the original Wii sold extremely well at first partly because of its low cost, and mostly because it had its motion controls. I just feel like the Wii U, because it lacks that "wow" that the Wii originally had, needs something like graphical prowess to fall back on. Sure, it has the tablet, but that's not going to appeal to the housewife/mother crowd like the Wiimote did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 My personal feeling, and it seemed to be general consensus from literally EVERYONE who had experience with the device before these anonymous "sources" today, is that it will be underpowered, just like you predict FMW, but still more powerful than a 360/PS3, but not a full generation above. Think Wii to PS2/GCN. I don't think Nintendo is completely happy with the Wii. I think/hope they see a lot of potential with it, sure they had a lot of sales, but a very low attach rate. Trying to get more of a piece from those self proclaimed "hardcore gamers" could net more software sales. Games like Assassin's Creed 3 are a good start These rumours are always bullshit anyways. Remember the 3DS rumours? At one point it was as powerful as a 360. Spork, agreed. The lack of that "WOW" factor could be it's biggest downfall, it will be very interesting how this sells. What they should do is change that fucking name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Spork, agreed. The lack of that "WOW" factor could be it's biggest downfall, it will be very interesting how this sells. What they should do is change that fucking name. You mean you don't want to get schooled by the Wii U? Think of all the great marketing Nintendo is so famous for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 You're right!!! It's like they put ME... in the Wii!!! omfg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Yeah, without that "wow" factor I don't see all those "non-traditional gamers" who bought a Wii upgrading to a Wii U. I see them going "well I already have a Wii". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) I do think people will be more taken by the tablet-controller than you guys give it credit for. People love them some tablets these days. But probably not to the level of "omfg motion controls". Edited April 4, 2012 by TheCowboyPoet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Everyone bought the Wii after playing "Wii bowling" for 15 minutes and then they took it home, played it for a few months and now it collects dust. I don't think that "OMG a tablet!" is going to be as effective as "OMG, it's like real bowling!" was. There was a bit of a party game mentality to the original Wii, I don't see that happening with WiiU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Yeah "OMG Tablet" comes with "OMG I already own an iPad/Fire/Whatever". And nearly everyone I know with a Wii it's pretty much an occasional thing, or it's guys liek you that get it out to play the Nintendo classics of Zelda n Other M n such. As for the power, yeah I was expecting more the Wii U to be to this gen as Wii is to GCN/PS2. Not to be pretty much on-par or maybe below. I guess we'll have to wait n see. Rumours are good for speculation n such, but ultimately they're still just rumours. Those people likely don't hang around on X-talk too much. I expect the reaction from individuals here to be overwhelmingly negative. The same people that voted in Mario and Zelda to be head on head with each other? Gagging for Zelda n Xenoblade n all that? I'm sure folks here don't care as long as they can play the latest Nintendo franchise title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Well, for the record Xenoblade is getting amazing reviews. That's what makes me want to play it more than anything. I do feel a bit burned out on Zelda at long last. I can honestly say I would not buy the Wii U for Zelda. Truthfully I didn't buy the Wii for Zelda either. I bought it because a friend sold it to me for $100 and my wife wanted one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel_excel Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Xenoblade IS awesome. Its not standard Nintendo fare by any stretch of the imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Well, for the record Xenoblade is getting amazing reviews. That's what makes me want to play it more than anything. I do feel a bit burned out on Zelda at long last. I can honestly say I would not buy the Wii U for Zelda. Truthfully I didn't buy the Wii for Zelda either. I bought it because a friend sold it to me for $100 and my wife wanted one. Doesn't matter why you got it as long as you give games on there a fare shake. People seem to dismiss Wii games out of hand just because of the console they're on. (not saying that's what you're doing, just that's what tends to happen) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I tend to be guilty of that myself, because given the option I would almost always prefer not to use that controller. Not quite always, but close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 http://www.develop-online.net/news/40425/Nintendo-Wii-U-is-about-fun-not-system-specs This kind of marketing speak is pretty much proof that the WiiU hardware sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredEffinChopin Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 http://www.develop-o...ot-system-specs This kind of marketing speak is pretty much proof that the WiiU hardware sucks. Sounds like they're still huffing the Wii-glue. What they're saying is technically true. There are certainly games from the 8-bit era that I believe are better then current games. That doesn't mean that being at a hardware disadvantage is an asset by any means though. They're gambling a lot on this tablet being able to bring more to the table for gaming than updated hardware. It's weird, it's like they announced this system with all this talk about catering to "U" hardcore people, but they're still reluctant to go head-to-head with the consoles that give that crowd (something closer to) what they want. They're still trying to re-invent the controller on everyone, which is cool, but risky when you're making it the main feature of your console. It's going to be a hard sell for me. Not impossible, but rough. While I don't see the controller as a big asset to gaming, it's totally possible that I just haven't thought of many possibilities. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted April 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Yeah if your'e going to come up on stage and announce all these "core" games then be prepared to be pandering to the core crowd with the console itself too, and they like numbers and figures n all that lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 I'll buy the Wii U when the first Zelda game that isn't available on Wii drops. Maybe the first Mario game if it seems like it's the best thing since sliced bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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