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Just get a disc drive. It just doesn't make much sense to not get one considering how cheap they are. And I assume that's how you're going to install Windows?

 

By the way, ATIs are just fine; the only big advantage I've found with nvidia is their drivers rock. If money's no object, go nvidia though.

 

Oh yeah, and I would avoid microATX mobos. They are good values but you're gonna kick yourself later when you need more pci slots.

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yea I'd say get a different motherboard. For Sandy Bridge i7s, you would want ether a P67 or z68 board, you listed an H67. Really the P67s should do you fine. Personally I say either an ASUS (like the P8P67 Pro), or a similar board by MSI.

 

Also, Corsair makes great parts, but really I've had no troubles with G. Skill RAM, and they are usually cheaper as well.

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Alright, I swapped the motherboard for a P67 so hopefully that's now taken care of. I'm currently over budget by a good 100-200 gbp, but I'm willing to stretch for it, I suppose. I don't really see anywhere I can cut costs more than I have other than the video card and that's the one thing I really don't want to move on if I can help it.

 

I also opted for the cheaper ram from G Skill. Hopefully they're okay. I guess we'll see.

 

So, here's what I'm looking at now:

 

Intel Core i7 960 3.2 ghz

Casecom 6788(somewhat worried if this is okay, wanted to cut costs on my last case idea. It's here

Nvidia GTX 580

Coolermaster 750w

1tb spinpoint HDD

Asrock P67 PRO (Is this okay?)

G-skill 8gb RAM

 

Thanks for all the help you guys have been giving me.

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If you absolutely must cut costs, it actually is better to cut on something more modular like the video card or RAM, rather than processors, which your motherboard may only be able to upgrade so far.

 

I have no intention of downgrading the processor, I'm definitely getting an i7. I could downgrade the video card I suppose, I will do more research. Thanks again.

 

EDIT: I've decided I'm just gonna downgrade the video card to a Radeon HD 6950. Apparently there's not much difference in it and the 6970 and it saves me almost £200, putting me 200 under budget, which is perfect. I can now do things like get a better case and maybe even an SSD if I can stretch that far.

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If you absolutely must cut costs, it actually is better to cut on something more modular like the video card or RAM, rather than processors, which your motherboard may only be able to upgrade so far.

 

I have no intention of downgrading the processor, I'm definitely getting an i7. I could downgrade the video card I suppose, I will do more research. Thanks again.

 

EDIT: I've decided I'm just gonna downgrade the video card to a Radeon HD 6950. Apparently there's not much difference in it and the 6970 and it saves me almost £200, putting me 200 under budget, which is perfect. I can now do things like get a better case and maybe even an SSD if I can stretch that far.

I'd wait on purchasing an SSD. The current models deteriorate rather quickly, and using one as a main hard drive gives it a life expectancy of about a year.

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I'd wait on purchasing an SSD. The current models deteriorate rather quickly, and using one as a main hard drive gives it a life expectancy of about a year.

 

A friend of mine is the prime example of this. He bought a low-mid range SSD and it lasted him about 4 or 5 months, possibly even less using it as a main drive. This must have been faulty or something to begin with for that lifetime but it does go to show how much more volatile SSD storage can be compared to the traditional HDD at the moment. Unless you're prepared topay the big money for an SSD, I think it's better foregoing it for the time being.

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A year huh? Where did you get that info? With TRIM and not having your data like pics/videos/etc on it I thought they lasted longer than that.

A user on Kotaku (Raso617 or something close) mentioned it when I was asking him about his SSD, back when I was checking the site practically every 10 minutes (stopped doing that a week ago).

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SSDs are fine when it's for a singular purpose. For instance if you are planning to get an SSD just use as a C drive or just use it your steam folder. Multiple types of uses, transferring files and the like wear it down.

 

I do get SSDs but they're mostly as HDDs for F3s and REDs. I have one for my computer but it usually serves as a steamapps location. I just do that since I want all my games on a nice little drive that's fast since I don't like to redownload when I format and prefer it on a nice tiny drive of 256GB or so.

 

But here's the most important thing to realise about SSDs most manufacturers cut costs on the NAND chips and thus this results in failure. If you are buying an SSD you should prepare to shell out a bit and not buy the cheapest.Most SSd manufacturers do tend to skimp out and so people can get life expectancies of below 9 months. The number of SSDs dying from good brands is a smaller percentage. However there will be wear and tear as with any physical medium. It is to be expected.

 

Here's a presentation given by Micron to give you an idea about the practices in the industry --> http://www.micron.co...?documentId=255

 

I'd recommend an Intel one since they've the best reliability if you are getting one that is. The reliability of an SSD(from a good manufacturer) is still marginally better than that of a 1TB+HDD.

 

Edited to add: Currently I would suggest just going with a regular hard drive as space might be your concern as opposed to speed when you factor in costs. Also edited in, new SSDs are set to be released in Fall which are of a higher storage. Wait to see how those turn out.

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