RIP, Steve Jobs

[Thorgi Duke of Frisbee]

Reposting what I wrote on Kotaku.

 

 

All I can think of is how sickly he looked year after year. His bony appearance made me want to cry. No one deserves to be turned into a husk of a person by cancer. Fuck cancer.

 

He made Pixar, my favorite animation studio ever. He made the Apple computer, the first real challenge to Windows. He made the iPod, a device that made me sane in the years where insanity was all around me. He made the iPad, a tool that finally broke down the barriers between my autism and my work.

 

For inspiring millions, and for everything he's done, I hope heaven gives him eternal peace and serenity in return. Rest in peace, Steve Jobs.

[Mal]

As I said before, I may hate how he runs things and such but he sure knew how to do what he did best.

[Faiblesse Des Sens]

As I said before, I may hate how he runs things and such but he sure knew how to do what he did best.

 

Bingo. I never liked the man but I certainly respected him.

[Chewblaha]

I sent my condolences to rememberingsteve@apple.com and --for once-- did not delete the "Sent from my iPhone" signature.

[CorgiShinobi]

As I said before, I may hate how he runs things and such but he sure knew how to do what he did best.

 

Bingo. I never liked the man but I certainly respected him.

" ", a.k.a. Ditto.

[Strangelove]

Its weird to say something so drastic about a person I never knew, but the man made my life a lot better and Im sure it did to other people too. Pixar has made some of the greatest films ever. Up is one of my favorite films ever and its guaranteed to make me feel better when I watch it. Ive owned a series of iPods since 2004 and its in my pocket every day before i leave the house. I hold that thing in my hand more than my own dick. I love those things with all my heart.

Normally I hate old people and I think 56 is old, but with the potential the man had, he truly and sincerely died too young. He is someone who would have kept contributing to the world and society, unlike most people.

[GunFlame]

I can't think of a more influential individual from the last 5 years.

 

Away from what he did with Apple, he just became a business man and leader of massive influence for many, many people. And this could been seen and felt not only by making Apple the most valuable computer company on the globe (value), but also by seeing his presence on advertisements. He became a face that people knew, and from there; trust.

 

There was a bus advertisement (not for buses, it was on buses) in Hong Kong, and I can't remember exactly what it was for (it wasn't for Apple), but the key word in the ad was "integrity", and there was a caricature of Steve Jobs.

 

I used to be another Apple hater until I actually starting to get a feel around the products. For some reason, I'd had an iPod (that still works) for about 5 years, but never thought of it as an Apple product...dunno...anyway, once I actually played around with a MacBook, I was accepting of it. I may not have fell in love, but I can't think of another Laptop that was built that way. The build quality is top shelf. So I could appreciate why people bought them.

 

Before I picked up my iPhone 4, I was trying very hard to find an Android alternative. There was no shortage of choice, but it in the end I went with the iPhone. It was and excellent choice, and I can see just why it was the device line that revolutionized mobile devices.

 

I'm just unsure of how this will impact Apple now. The iPhone 4S was hardly met with delight, and even when he resigned, there was a huge ripple. But now, he is gone. The face and man that many trust is no longer there...

 

All I hope, is that Apple can continue to go the direction that Steve led it, and that we as the consumer, can continue to have faith in the brand that he did.

 

Rest in Peace buddy, you have certainly added to my life.

 

True Genius, now Legend.

Edited October 6, 2011 by GunFlame

[RockyRan]

It wasn't until his death that I realized what kind of impact he had. I'm decidedly anti-Apple and disliked Jobs' way of running his business (he was, reportedly, a massive asshole to lower-level employees), but at the end of the day, despite my dislike for the Apple brand in general, I can't help but feel the industry has lost a big chunk by losing him. I suppose it's because his work was built on by countless other software companies that it's hard to imagine where consumer electronics would be without that initial push from Apple. Like cell phones, for instance. Despite the fact that my WP7 phone's OS is absolutely nothing like iOS, there's no denying MS would've even released the OS had the iPhone never existed. I never really quite realized the butterfly effect Jobs' work had until now.

[Pirandello]

I'll just relay what I've done many times on Facebook already:

 

The Almighty Apple Overlord hath ascended to a realm of greater existence. Bless his soul.

 

Jobs was unique, much like his company, and his products. May his legacy live on!

 

From a proud owner of a 1st Generation iPod Touch and a MacBook Pro.

[deanb]

He made Pixar, my favorite animation studio ever. He made the Apple computer, the first real challenge to Windows. He made the iPod, a device that made me sane in the years where insanity was all around me. He made the iPad, a tool that finally broke down the barriers between my autism and my work.

 

Maybe not the right thing to say at this time but him being attributed as the iCreator is gettign a bit on my wick even if he's dead:

Pixar - George Lucas. Jobs bought it.

Apple Computer - Steve Wozniak. Jobs sold it. (Also it was made before Windows existed)

iPod - Jonathan Ive. He's the guy behind most of their devices the past decade+ that Jobs has been around.

 

 

I've never been a fan of him, his company or his products. Apart from possibly needing to add a new filter to DestroyTwitter today is going to be much the same as any other day for me. Hit me up when my gran dies (or any of yours. They've probably done more for you guys than Jobs has). So yeah, a dude dies. That's sad. Probably many thousands while I wrote this. Kinda sad too. Not much to dwell on really :/

[Mal]

Well, you can't overlook the fact that he had/has a certain aurora around him. He's an icon of the tech world for a really good reason. He marketed and branded Apple to the point that you can't look at an Apple product without thinking of Jobs. He is/was a sort of Warren Buffett/Einstein. I just respect the guy for having such genius to reach such a level. All other aspect of him... I'll be sitting with you on the same boat.

 

A year or two ago, I heard Woz speak and at one point he did a subtle stab at Jobs. Was pretty funny.

[Thursday Next]

He made Pixar, my favorite animation studio ever. He made the Apple computer, the first real challenge to Windows. He made the iPod, a device that made me sane in the years where insanity was all around me. He made the iPad, a tool that finally broke down the barriers between my autism and my work.

 

Maybe not the right thing to say at this time but him being attributed as the iCreator is gettign a bit on my wick even if he's dead:

Pixar - George Lucas. Jobs bought it.

Apple Computer - Steve Wozniak. Jobs sold it. (Also it was made before Windows existed)

iPod - Jonathan Ive. He's the guy behind most of their devices the past decade+ that Jobs has been around.

 

 

I've never been a fan of him, his company or his products. Apart from possibly needing to add a new filter to DestroyTwitter today is going to be much the same as any other day for me. Hit me up when my gran dies (or any of yours. They've probably done more for you guys than Jobs has). So yeah, a dude dies. That's sad. Probably many thousands while I wrote this. Kinda sad too. Not much to dwell on really :/

 

Pretty much what Dean said. The guy had zero impact on my life. I'm sad for the people who knew him and lost a loved one, just like I'm sad for anyone who loses a loved one. But I never met the guy, so I don't "care" in the way that so many others seem to.

[Thursday Next]

Stop comparing Steve Jobs to Einstein. It's an incredible insult to a man who devoted his life to peace and the advancement of our understanding of the universe.

 

Einstein won a Nobel Prize for Physics in 1922, had a chemical element named after him in 1955, was named "Person of the Century" by Time magazine in 1999, his name is synonymous with scientific genius.

 

He was instrumental in spurring on the US to develop the nuclear bomb which saved countless lives by bringing the second world war to a close, and he did this despite a life dedicated to pacifism (I can think of no greater sacrifice, no harder choice than setting aside your principles for the greater good, especially when you know that thousands will die as a result of your actions). He paved the way for solar generated electricity with his work on the photo-voltaic cell.

 

Einstein's work provided the foundation for two potential solutions to the inevitable energy crisis the planet faces, his work in nuclear physics and his work on solar energy. His general and special theory of relativity changed physics forever.

 

Steve Jobs ran a company that makes some popular lifestyle gadgets.

 

Get some perspective.

[CorgiShinobi]

It's not like a lot of people (aside from Apple "enthusiasts") are crying and breaking down over the lose of Steve Jobs, but as Mal said, he was an icon in the computer industry. Yeah there are probably a lot of people who have no clue about his actual influence, but as one of my friends put it, it's the death of "a great salesman."

 

He kept the perception of Apple, of what it is today, alive for anyone with a Mac and/or iPod.

 

I mean, I could rattle off a couple of things that paint Jobs as a complete dick, but then again I should probably refrain from casting stones.

[GunFlame]

I don't know why, when someone popular or well known dies, so many people try and make the passing as irrelevant as possible. Does it really bother people so much to see others show some appreciation and pass on condolences for a person that made a mark on them in some way?

 

Why go out of your way to do this? I see no other reason that to simply start an argument.

 

If you don't like Apple products or Steve Jobs, then that's fine. But do you really feel the need to voice that now, right now after he has passed away?

 

It does you no harm to let people share a moment.

 

Surely we are mature enough to simply ignore the things that we don't care about, right?

Edited October 6, 2011 by GunFlame

[deanb]

And some people go out of their way to make it the biggest news of the year. I've also voiced my opinion for years, it's not like I've waited til this day.

 

And things like comparing Jobs to folks like Einstein & Co is something some of us do care about. He died, he was a good business man. But it's dishonest to put him on such a high pedestal and to attribute things to him that he didn't do. Kotick was an equally good business man but I doubt folks will be comparing him to Einstein and declaring him the greatest person of the last half century.

 

Anywho I shall share my FB post:

On a slightly more serous note Steve jobs was not an engineer, he wasn't a creative genius. What he was was a businessman. And he sold the idea that items you owned could make you a better person. He stood up on a stage and made people feel special. I think that is what people will truly miss him for.

[Thursday Next]

Rarely am I so closely aligned with Dean (a quick peek at the piracy thread will reveal that). But what he said illustrates my feelings on this matter perfectly.

[GunFlame]

How about Warren Buffet? Is he on a par with Einstein, or just Steve Jobs shouldn't be sat in that 'sort of' category?

 

I understand that we want to defend things that we think strongly about. And I can 100% side with you when you believe that some people may be going to the extremes due Steve Jobs' recent death. I just don't know why we always feel the need to challenge someones thoughts, regardless of the time, place or reason.

 

We seem to be caught up we saying how little we care about the deaths of certain people. Especially popular or well know folk. It's kinda sad really. Sure, we can debate their relevance or impact, but must it be done on the same day that they guy died?

 

I'm pretty sure you didn't know my Grandfather, but I'm also pretty sure you wouldn't go out of your way to say that you didn't care that he had died.

 

Basically, I'm just saying that there is a time and a place for everything.

[Thursday Next]

I might as well ask you why everyone feels the need to speak publicly about how special Steve Jobs made their lives. If you want to mourn him, then do so, if you want to mourn him without other people interjecting, then mourn privately. As you said yourself a time and a place for everything. You don't want to hear public opinion, don't bare your soul in public.

[GunFlame]

He died today. People are mourning him on the day of his death. When people mourn, the mourn together and on their own.

 

How about if a bunch of guys were at a bar, just back from the funeral of Steve Jobs and were discussing how his influence on them, would you intervene then and offer your opinion?

Edited October 6, 2011 by GunFlame

[Thursday Next]

If I were in a bar, talking with the people I regularly drink and talk with, and the conversation turned to Jobs, yes. I would venture my opinion.

[GunFlame]

That's not what I asked though. I asked about if those people were mourning him, and we're doing so on the day that he died. Like today's scenario.

 

Like I said. I can understand your opinion of the guy. But I don't know why you feel the need to voice that today. But it's your choice. Can't argue with that.

[deanb]

Surely it's a bit of inequality to say only those who had a thing for him are allowed to speak up and everyone else has to keep shut for a week or so?

 

I'd have kept out if it wasn't for the revisionism going on with his passing. If you think he's awesome then that's totally your opinion man. Just don't go inflating that.

 

 

Also Thursday: Rarely?

[Thursday Next]

Today's scenario? As in X-Talk is the bar. The commenters are people that I regularly converse with. The number one topic of conversation at the time was Mr Jobs. So I offered my thoughts? That scenario?

 

I would not go out of my way to find an Apple forum, register, hop on an "RIP Steve Jobs" thread and start calling them a bunch of cry-babies. In fact, I would not go to any new forum, sign up and try to find an "RIP Steve Jobs" thread and comment on it. Nor would I create an "I don't care that Steve Jobs is dead" topic, because, well, I don't care enough to do it.

 

EDIT: Dean. It ain't fiction, just a natural fact...

Edited October 6, 2011 by Thursday Next

[deanb]

I think with the bar he's talking about an actual pub. As in if you went to the Kings Arms today for a pint n meal and some folks were on a table discussing Steve Jobs would you interrupt them with your thoughts?

 

For me that'd be a no since it's in a private setting as Thursday pointed out before as an appropriate time n place. However should one of them decide to pick up the karaoke mic and discuss Steve jobs then it becomes public and I'd step in at that point. This is a public forum.