Pheermee Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 TBH I am pretty tired pf playing the "AMERICANS ARE AWESOME AND THE BEST AT EVERYTHING AND ARE NEVER WRONG!" game/mentality. As A World Traveler (or as Singapore stamped on my passport, Suspected Hippie In Transit S.H.I.T.)I know that Americans are the most egotistical and rude people on the planet. We are entering an age of the Global Community. Not America controls the world or American enlightens the savages and must be the beacon of right in the world. I want a game that shows the world for what it is. Nationalism is the worst thing to ever poison the minds of man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I agree that nationalism is outdated and such, but the same time are you telling me that if North Korea invaded that you would be just fine and dandy with that? You wouldn't want to resist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheermee Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I didn't mean to imply that I welcome our new communist overlords. I hate patriotism and nationalism. Why cant we just rally behind the fact that we are people. Or that we don't want to be attacked? It just seems like this game is cashing on the US vs Commies trope. And using the US as a battle ground to make people care. And I bet you a million internets you play as a righteous bad ass American who will eventually drive the evil Commies out of The Greatest Nation Ever. Also I would Like to point out that I know nothing about this game really, and should educate myself before going further. Just stating my opinion on the current trope of AMERICA FUCK YEAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brida Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Well they're certainly not about to look into the intricacies of why NKan rule might be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxnevmorexx Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I didn't mean to imply that I welcome our new communist overlords. I hate patriotism and nationalism. Why cant we just rally behind the fact that we are people. Or that we don't want to be attacked? It just seems like this game is cashing on the US vs Commies trope. And using the US as a battle ground to make people care. And I bet you a million internets you play as a righteous bad ass American who will eventually drive the evil Commies out of The Greatest Nation Ever. Also I would Like to point out that I know nothing about this game really, and should educate myself before going further. Just stating my opinion on the current trope of AMERICA FUCK YEAH! In the game your actually not even there in the large final battle, your mission is basically to help deliver supplies or something like that that allows the military to change the tide of battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 How do you already know what the final mission is? Also, spoiler tags on stuff like that in the future, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxnevmorexx Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 How do you already know what the final mission is? Also, spoiler tags on stuff like that in the future, please. oops sorry bout that, i beleive they talked about it in one of the dev diaries or videos describing your purpose in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Are you sure they were describing the final mission, and not just what you do in the game in general? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxnevmorexx Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 thats really what i ment, that your really just enabling something to happen and not really omg im teh bad azz leader of da rezistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slithy toves Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 i don't normally take and interest in shooters but i have a friend who works at kaos so i've been following this one. my take on the game, and this is a little tainted by knowing the personality of my friend who's working on this and may in no way actually end up being what the end result actually looks like, but it's that it isn't trying to bash you over the head with "america fuck yeah" and even goes to some pains to rile up your emotions so that it starts to get you all warm and fuzzy with self-righteousness and then kind of sidearms you with how that can just lead to you being as much of a monstrous douche as the people you're fighting against. i also don't think the idea of it taking place on american soil was so much "america fuck yeah" as it was a little getting a taste of your own medicine kind of deal. but i've also somehow become an optimist in my old age, so i may be sorely disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I'm interested in this game. I think its really interesting considering some of the things leaked from wikileaks, like the talks of a Unified Korea after KJI dies and playing nice with China, etc. So yes, it sounds fairly plausible to me. Also; Starcraft players as the lead strategists of the United Korean military... lol Really for this game it doesn't sound as much as FUCK YEA AMERICA as MW2 did. This is more like an outside force has invaded your homeland, put all of you in prison camps, and is putting a severe kink in your plans, and generally ruined your day. So you are going to fight to push back this invading force with the goal of preserving not just your life, but your way of life. Really that's a theme that can be replicated and replaced in any country. Granted, I haven't played the game yet either. MW2 seemed more like "AW HELL NO. We ain't gonna let these bastard try and kick our asses on our home turf are we?" "HOORAH." America, fuck yea, type of game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 i don't normally take and interest in shooters but i have a friend who works at kaos so i've been following this one. my take on the game, and this is a little tainted by knowing the personality of my friend who's working on this and may in no way actually end up being what the end result actually looks like, but it's that it isn't trying to bash you over the head with "america fuck yeah" and even goes to some pains to rile up your emotions so that it starts to get you all warm and fuzzy with self-righteousness and then kind of sidearms you with how that can just lead to you being as much of a monstrous douche as the people you're fighting against. i also don't think the idea of it taking place on american soil was so much "america fuck yeah" as it was a little getting a taste of your own medicine kind of deal. but i've also somehow become an optimist in my old age, so i may be sorely disappointed. I hope you're right, that would make it an awesome game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Thank you staySICK, you explained it better than I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slithy toves Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 i don't normally take and interest in shooters but i have a friend who works at kaos so i've been following this one. my take on the game, and this is a little tainted by knowing the personality of my friend who's working on this and may in no way actually end up being what the end result actually looks like, but it's that it isn't trying to bash you over the head with "america fuck yeah" and even goes to some pains to rile up your emotions so that it starts to get you all warm and fuzzy with self-righteousness and then kind of sidearms you with how that can just lead to you being as much of a monstrous douche as the people you're fighting against. i also don't think the idea of it taking place on american soil was so much "america fuck yeah" as it was a little getting a taste of your own medicine kind of deal. but i've also somehow become an optimist in my old age, so i may be sorely disappointed. I hope you're right, that would make it an awesome game. me too, trying to not be too hopeful but it would be so nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I've not followed this game much, but pretty much any chance I would be interested in it has been completely obliterated by the 'oh look North Korea n South Korea are having a skirmish, time to plug HomeFront'*, 'North Korea are mentioned in the Wikileaks, time to plug Homefront' 'homefront will make Americans angry'. I just kind of dislike the manufactured controversy of recent FPS games (of which one also had invasion of US), and it kinda says something about a game when the developers can't strike up enough controversy themselves to have news outlets eating out of thier hand for the free advertising, but the news outlets themselves need to stir up some controversy. And while it's not like the HomeFront devs asked for this kind of courage, they can't exactly be surprised. *btw that had to have been one of the more tasteless VG stories of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Isn't Homefront about a unified Korea? Seems like the recent news stories are about as far from that as you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Well it's unified under Kim Jong Ils little tyke. So it's possibly heading that way. It feels a bit late n all since James Bond already covered the whole "Oh it's not the cold war anymore, what evils can we use that aren't China (cos let's not piss them off) and aren't Russia since we're pals now". Obviously COD n MOH have the Middle-Eastern market cornered, with a touch of Cold War Russia. Also this game isn't going to review too well. It kinda relies on the shock n empathy of America being attacked n invaded by Korea. There's only one game buying nation that gives a fuck about that. The rest? It's a bit meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainHurtBoy...2 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Korea may have the 4th Largest army in the world, but keep in mind they're experiencing a crippling famine and the average male height is 4'10. Not just that, but America's missiles are better and in more abundance. Almost any missile attack from North Korea wouldn't be able to make it across the Pacific before getting shot down, let alone the thousands upon thousands of planes and ships it would take to bring over a fighting force large enough to conquer the Pacific seaboard alone. Nowadays, large-scale, non-urban warfare is a very different animal, one which the US pretty much has domination in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 So Toshi could go over there and be a giant, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTervo Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 @Ethan nevmore is right, and a spoiler tag isn't appropriate, as, in actual fact, the entire plot of the game is your character helping a band of survivors transport supplies across the USA, whilst helping civilians and rebels out. On a Kote post about Homefront it was mentioned how the devs got the guy who wrote the screenplay for Apocalypse Now, John Milius, to help them write the plot and some of the story. Instead of it being an 'YEAH America lets team together and fight off these assole Koreans' Milius changed the plot to be about a humane struggle across the damaged, conquered country that is the USA. I think seeing this game as an America-positive message is flawed. And yes, the entire game is based around what nevmore said, it's no spoilerage whatsoever. What I said is referenced in this article, just before the 3rd picture: http://kotaku.com/5682584/a-video-game-designed-to-make-americans-angry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 See, they should have just made Homefront with the Chinese instead of the North Koreans invading. Piss of the Chinese? Like anyone cares now. We have to make the games with them being villains now before they're a total superpower! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 @Kenshi: Yeah, I realized that later, but at the time it looked like a spoiler. "In the final mission you do X." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 I just saw some gameplay footage on GTTV and I'm actually a little disappointed. At least in the part I saw, it borrowed quite heavily from CoD, and that did quite a bit to dampen my enthusiasm for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirandello Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 I think if I do get this game, I'll probably play it purely for the singleplayer. =\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 The singleplayer is actually what I referred to. It just...looked a bit too much like Modern Warfare 2, at least in the footage they showed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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