Mister Jack Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Not a bad conference, but you can tell they're saving their A-game for E3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Won't be spending much time looking at the box. Happy to see controller, EyeS Toy and lots of awesome features (PS Vita as second screen especially). Most excited about the instaboot into game thing. I hate those 2mins of menu hopping and publisher logos and more menus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 as cool as this was as of right now I can safely say I have no rush to purchase one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Definitely an evolution not a revolution: I wasn't surprised by anything, but it does look cool. I hope people can share their LBP creations outside of the game as there is no chance I could come up with anything unembarrassing in that. I agree with the dive-in gaming being a neat addition. I love just closing my 3DS and opening it to be instantly exactly the same place as I was - it really encourages me for shorter sessions, when sometimes it seems more hassle than it's worth to start up a console. Loved that PSN was down during the event. Glad I didnt' venture in to Home to watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 In my opinion, Sony nailed it, they did exactly what they should have, and left enough for me dying for E3. My favorite announcement: all PS4 games streamable to the Vita. Being able to be at work, go on break, and play Elder Scrolls 6, Red Dead 2, etc. THAT'S A FUCKING GAME CHANGER, PEOPLE. That completely out does Nintendo, with the only exception being price for a Vita/PS4.Knack looks cool, The Witness was beautiful, and the new inFamous was great. I didn't see the Killzone, Destiny, or Watch Dogs.. though awesome move on Sony's part in bringing in Bungie. Lastly (ok I'll probably post more after dinner), that controller looks beautiful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 The Witness may have looked nice, but Jesus Christ, Blow, "see the rest of the games you've just been clapping? They're SHIT YOU FUCKING MORONS now look at my trees and STFU" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I can't remember the last launch that actually had a decent-looking game. Hopefully they have more coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Well, at the moment they have Killzone. Its not a system seller though*, which is why I'm sort of disappointed in SE's part. I want to love a Final Fantasy game again. Also having more exclusives can help, even if they are console exclusive. *Maybe a PS4 bundled with Killzone Shadowfall and a Move will get me. It all depends on the price, which I expect by E3. Edit: Also good thing I didn't get a Vita yet. Maybe I'll like the XL more. Edited February 21, 2013 by MaliciousH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 In my opinion, Sony nailed it, they did exactly what they should have, and left enough for me dying for E3. My favorite announcement: all PS4 games streamable to the Vita. Being able to be at work, go on break, and play Elder Scrolls 6, Red Dead 2, etc. THAT'S A FUCKING GAME CHANGER, PEOPLE. That completely out does Nintendo, with the only exception being price for a Vita/PS4. This exactly. Every feature revealed had me going "Ooh that's cool I want that!". Though that Vita remote play might be Vita only, from what I've read. It didn't say that but said "Wifi network". I'm sold already, and most likely will be an early adopter, based on everything I've read so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Though that Vita remote play might be Vita only Is there a wrong word being used here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) My favorite announcement: all PS4 games streamable to the Vita. Being able to be at work, go on break, and play Elder Scrolls 6, Red Dead 2, etc. THAT'S A FUCKING GAME CHANGER, PEOPLE. Wait, did I miss the part where they said it would work at long range like that? I kinda figured you'll have to be within a certain range of the console, like in the same house or something.. Edited February 21, 2013 by FLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Though that Vita remote play might be Vita only Is there a wrong word being used here? Yes!!! Wi-fi only! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 @FLD: It should work similar to the Wii U's most likely so yes you probably need to be nearby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I'd imagine it would be similar to remote play on PS3 to Vita, playable anywhere with a wifi network. In fact, didn't they say something along the lines "all your games, anywhere"?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Sony has confirmed that it won't block used games. Sold! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 W Edit: Also good thing I didn't get a Vita yet. Maybe I'll like the XL more. grrr, can't get rid of the "W". Did they hint at an vita XL? I missed that, or are you just hoping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Quote: The GPU contains a unified array of 18 compute units, which collectively generate 1.84 Teraflops of processing power that can freely be applied to graphics, simulation tasks, or some mixture of the two.8GB GDDR5 176GB/s unified Quote: Immediate GameplayPS4 radically reduces the lag time between players and their content. PS4 features “suspend mode” which keeps the system in a low power state while preserving the game session. The time it takes today to boot a console and load a saved game will be a thing of the past. With PS4, gamers just hit the power button again and are promptly back playing the game at the exact point where they left off. Additionally, users can boot a variety of applications including a web browser when playing a game on PS4.PS4 also enables games to be downloaded or updated in the background, or even in stand-by mode. The system takes it one step further by making digital titles playable as they are being downloaded. When a player purchases a game, PS4 downloads just a fraction of the data so gamers can start playing immediately, and the rest is downloaded in the background during actual gameplay. Quote: DUALSHOCK®4 features a light bar on the top with three color LEDs that illuminate in various colors. The light bar illuminates to match the color of characters in a game to offer a simpler, more friendly way to identify players, even when playing side by side. The light bar also changes patterns during gameplay to provide useful information to gamers, such as when a character is critically low on health or has taken major damage. Quote: Combined with the Mono Headset that will be bundled with PS4, gamers will also be able to chat with friends playing online, while hearing sound effects from the controller in hand. link. Bundled headset should mean more chat than PS3 games, whether you think that's good or bad. I know they said the light bar had different colours so players could identify them, but I didn't realised it matched the player colour on screen, that's quite cool. Also changes pattern when you're low on health or take major damage. Loading up a browser in the middle of playing the game is pretty useful on nintendo hardware, so I like that - i hope you can watch youtube videos while the game's suspsended. Edited February 21, 2013 by TheFlyingGerbil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post deanb Posted February 21, 2013 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Sony really hit it out of the park with this one, I think it has gone a fair bit beyond original expectations, rectifying every issue with the PS3 and then some. The architecture is too exotic! Well here's an x86 CPU. The RAM is too limited! Well here's 8GBs of GDDR5 RAM. The downloads are too slow! Well we'll let you start playing before the download even finishes then. Not enough people talk online! Well here's a bundled headset (and standard headset port) Blu-Ray is too slow! Well here's a 6X BD-drive. I can't play Halo! Well here's Halo Destiny. I can't afford video capture hardware! Well it's built into the console. Demons Souls is too hard! Well your friend can beat it for you over the internet. And all the other random stuff on top. I think it'll be hard to fuck this one up, pretty much only major issue with it people will have is the lack of B/C and the yet to be announced price. And, while me me winning the lottery is more likely, MS could pull something neat out their arse. Also the outlier of the Steambox too, which won't be exact, but could duplicate a fair chunk of these features (pretty much any PC could) but that's never really stopped consoles in the past. Gaikai and similar streaming related goodies are their ace up the sleeve for now. Playing as the game downloads has been attempted before in PC space but never took off. Also for those curious the (tentative) weight of the DS4 is only 10g more than the DS3. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 So I know I'm late to the party, but here are my thoughts I had during the presentation: "Enhanced feel" of sticks and triggers? "Tighter control"? If that means higher stick tension then FUCK YES! I don't like the real-name stuff on PSN, but we'll see what privacy options they have. It automatically downloading stuff based on what it thinks you'll like sounds terrible. I hope you can turn it off. The UI looks nice, but like it might have navigational problems similar to what 360 has now. The livestreaming your sessions to friends is highly cool. Remote play bitches! (Also, at this point I had a realization that maybe the reason remote play on PS3 isn't as good as Wii U, with lower quality video, etc, is because the PS3 only has 802.11g, while the Wii U's connection to the tablet is 802.11n.) WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?! Really pushing standby, and that would be nice sometimes, but honestly I want my electronics to turn off. I hope there's an easy way to do that without unplugging the thing. Share button is great. Killzone looks gorgeous, but I want everyone to remember what Though they really did make it look like this Killzone was a live demonstration of someone actually playing, so who knows. Also, like I said a couple pages back, dual cameras won't fix the Move's drift problem. There may be different tech in the DS4 that fixes it for that controller, but as far as the Move itself goes it doesn't change anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Yeah I'm not a fan of what I've see of the UI so far, XMB was pretty spot on imo. Naming, standby and auto-downloading stuff is likely going to be optional to enable/disable as you wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 The social side the guy said (very quickly, so I think he knew how it would go over) that it would link to your other social networks. So I assume it pulls extra info in like your phone does. I may think it's OK if you can keep it from posting to facebook so I'll look forward to more information. They did specifically say someone was playing Killzone, and brought them on stage, surely they wouldn't so blatantly lie? There did seem to be a marked difference between the in-engine demos (e.g. the ice world) and the actual games (e.g watch_dogs) How did the graphics compare to a PC? I'm pleased enough with it that it would take something major for me to want the xbox 3 over it. Something along the lines of a mandatory subscription, and MS cancelling theirs. so not too likely on either end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Watch Dogs is multiplat, and those are never going to look as good as exclusives because they're not developed specifically to pull everything out of that hardware. The games looked about as good as some of the top-end PC games that very few people can run at those settings (except Watch Dogs, which looked like my PC could plausibly run it like that). Another thing I thought of: it was interesting how West-centric the presentation seemed to be. I wonder if that's because they're still handily the leader in Japan and so don't feel the need to win over consumers over there. Edited February 21, 2013 by Deanb There's an edit Ethan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Well PS3 already connects to Facebook, I guess this is just taking it a bit of a step further, in some cases it'd be handy for me because my status on PS3 isn't a joke, I don't know half the guys I have on PSN despite most of them being like you lot n such (I don't add randoms). Graphics will be about on-par with current mid-high end. Main thing is they're all likely to be running in 1080p unlike last gen, so that'll be a notable mark-up from PS3, but most PC games run at screen resolution anyway so you're looking at around and far in excess of 1080p on PCs anyway. Polygon count isn't as huge a thing as it was in ye olden days (something David Cage fucked up on), hence them bringing out folks like Blow for Witness. Stuff that'll be big for using console grunt on will be physics and AI. The little touches that make something feel alive and believable. More RAM means bigger worlds too, less of the issue of GTAIV where you get hold of one rare supercar and now all the cars are super cars due to it only loading a handful of models into memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 PSN game purchases won't transfer from PS3 to PS4. Though really that's kind of a "no shit" thing since there's no b/c between the two. What I'll be interested to find out is when they get those games streaming to the PS4 whether you'll have to buy them again or whether it will recognize that you already bought them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I had this saved for posting so here I am. Yeah it's a bit of a no shit. I saw it mentioned you'd be able to stream games if you pop the disc in (it'll still be able to read disc, even if it can't fully process the data), but I've not seen that as any official word. Seems a reasonable thing to do, solves issues of trying to tie disc games to accounts (like what cropped up with the PSP Go/Vita). I'd imagine some games could be ported over though, mainly the multi-plat games, and Minis. Still it hammers home the whole "Don't invest too much in a digital collection on console". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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