Thursday Next Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 It's pretty similar, largely because it is based on the Christian ceremony that pre-dates the discovery of America. You don't actually need a license per se. You do however (but only for a Civil Marriage) need to give notice of your intent to marry / civilly partner consisting of full name, age - minimum of 18 (or 16 with parental consent), address, nationality, current status (single, divorced, etc), occupation, and intended venue for your marriage or civil partnership. After 15 days, you will be granted authority. How this boils down in practicality is you will go to your registry office (or church) and when you book in a date you will have to supply those details. Your earliest available date will be at least 15 days out. Notice will be publicly displayed for 15 days by the registrar or the vicar will press-gang you into attending church for at least 6 months and make a "Banns" public announcement of the impending doom marriage 3months prior depending on whether you have gone CofE or Civil. The idea is to give people plenty of time to "speak now" before having to "forever hold their peace". Interestingly in the UK marriages must take place between 08:00 and 18:00, hence the lack of chapels operating at 4am and overseen by Elvis impersonators. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo6/12-13-14/76/section/4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) The term "license" isn't really what it implies. The only time you'd be denied it is if you're blood or adoptive relatives of first cousin or closer degree (or anyone in your direct line of descent/ancestry). *Edit* - Actually, depending on the state, it's only siblings or direct descent/ancestry that can't get married. I know Colorado allows first cousins. Edited February 8, 2012 by TheMightyEthan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 The idea is to give people plenty of time to "speak now" before having to "forever hold their peace". I've filmed probably over 100 weddings and I've never actually heard a preacher do that part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixTwoSixFour Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 The idea is to give people plenty of time to "speak now" before having to "forever hold their peace". I've filmed probably over 100 weddings and I've never actually heard a preacher do that part. Yeah, that part is popular in movies, but it's just inviting some drunken uncle to make an ass of himself. The handful of weddings I've been to... I think it was done once, and very quickly, and it turned out to be a bad idea because even in that short time frame some drunken idiot DID shout out an unfunny joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 That part was included at my friend's wedding last year. I can't say the thought of yelling "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" didn't cross my mind (and I wasn't even drunk, or an uncle). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I'm pretty sure they did it at our wedding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I think it's a misconception that independants are generally intellectuals with a moderate stance directly center. My personal experience is they're more impulse buyers who go after what strikes their fancy in the checkout aisle. I can agree. And they don't see a lot to like about either party, but the wholesale demolition of the federal government is a big pill to swallow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 @dukeofpwn how many religious bigots have you personally been insulted or threatened by? A good friend of mine who came out in high school was hounded by our classmates constantly. Teachers told him he was going to hell. Parents would complain he was on their kids' sports teams and using their locker rooms. His female friends were called fag hags constantly. Folks in the community (adults) would insult him and refuse to deal with him openly. The Art teacher wouldn't speak to him, even in class. This was from 1996-2000 in western Iowa. Most of this was premised on religion, as it was a very religious community. Fortunately he had a group of accepting friends. I dunno about Duke, but I have absolutely seen religious bigotry against gay people. It was a very central problem in the social lives of my group of friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Is anyone keeping up with this thing going on in Syria right now? Do you think we (The US) should get involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 What's going on? Is it syrius? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/07/world/meast/syria-analysis/index.html?npt=NP1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixTwoSixFour Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) I think it's a pretty hard call. Frankly, we just got out of Iraq and I'm none too eager to be saddled with another foreign war. Our budget is in a bad way, our economy is just starting to come back together, the last thing we need is another cash sink to drown in. However, the atrocities being committed there are difficult to ignore, and impossible to deny. Something needs to be done. We cannot shut our eyes to the world, but we also cannot afford to work so hard in the protection of others that our own nation crumbles. I think we need to support any efforts made by the UN to resolve the situation, with resources, but we should not lead the charge. America is not ready to be entrenched once again. Ultimately, we cannot help anyone else if we can't keep our country together. Edited February 9, 2012 by SixTwoSixFour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I do think getting directly involved with another war is just too much for us right now, but we could still be doing more than absolutely nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I think it's a pretty hard call. Frankly, we just got out of Iraq and I'm none too eager to be saddled with another foreign war. Our budget is in a bad way, our economy is just starting to come back together, the last thing we need is another cash sink to drown in. However, the atrocities being committed there are difficult to ignore, and impossible to deny. Something needs to be done. We cannot shut our eyes to the world, but we also cannot afford to work so hard in the protection of others that our own nation crumbles. I think we need to support any efforts made by the UN to resolve the situation, with resources, but we should not lead the charge. America is not ready to be entrenched once again. Ultimately, we cannot help anyone else if we can't keep our country together. We are not the world's police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 You are however parts of international agreements and alliances which are in practice kind of world police Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Well duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixTwoSixFour Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 We are not the world's police. Not to be whatever, but tell that to the people being tortured and killed in Syria. Tell them "sorry, but it's not our responsibility." We have the power, we have the opportunity. I don't think it's humane for us to do nothing. We are not the world's police, but we can be a decent neighbor, fer chrissake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Pirate Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I'm really disappointed in the people in my town. There has been so much hate flooding towards the gays around here as of late. Just last week someone posted a threat on the local gay club's door. My aunts are gay, but they still attend church--so gays are hated and now they can't practice and follow the same religion? So much hypocrisy I can't even fully comprehend it. RGH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted February 9, 2012 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I'm really disappointed in the people in my town. There has been so much hate flooding towards the gays around here as of late. Just last week someone posted a threat on the local gay club's door. My aunts are gay, but they still attend church--so gays are hated and now they can't practice and follow the same religion? So much hypocrisy I can't even fully comprehend it. RGH. They're hating because they see the events unfolding in Washington and California and know it's only time before their bigoted rules against gay marriage are struck down by the courts. That doesn't make it any less disappointing to see, but we can take pride in knowing that their horrific discrimination cannot last forever, and is slowly crumbling away. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Actually, Duke, that pic is of an Iowa church and gay marriage is legal in Iowa, much to the consternation of the bigots in my hometown. The assholes are all unhappy and it makes me positively full of glee. Edited February 9, 2012 by Mr. GOH! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovach_ Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 My aunts are gay, but they still attend church--so gays are hated and now they can't practice and follow the same religion? So much hypocrisy I can't even fully comprehend it. RGH. See, i never understood gay Christians. I mean, sure, one is free to believe in whatever he/she wants to, but how can one believe in something that explicitly says you're a curse on this world, a mistake and what not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 My aunts are gay, but they still attend church--so gays are hated and now they can't practice and follow the same religion? So much hypocrisy I can't even fully comprehend it. RGH. See, i never understood gay Christians. I mean, sure, one is free to believe in whatever he/she wants to, but how can one believe in something that explicitly says you're a curse on this world, a mistake and what not? The Bible doesn't call homosexuals "mistakes". It's just classified as a sin just like any other sin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovach_ Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Ok, i worded that wrong. As i see it, a sin is something that is wrong. Something that you can, but should not do. And since gays don't choose to be gay, they just are, that means their whole existence is wrong. So unless they repent and say that they were wrong for being gay, it's eternal damnation. Or did i miss something while reading the Bible? Edited February 9, 2012 by Kovach_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Not really a sin that's easy to not do though. Killing, stealing, adultry etc are sins that you can skip on doing, but being gay is going to have you in the confession box for a fair while. "father forgive me for I have sinned. In fact I'm sinning right now. My rosary bears are getting pretty worn out too" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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