Mister Jack Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Are gun shows without background checks still a thing? I know that was an issue for a while but I never heard how that ended up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Okay, that's one thing we really ought to be able to compromise on and yet we don't because the tea party thinks compromise is a four letter word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) I've seen that. A couple of times. Edit: Sorry, I meant the modded trucks with stacks. Edited July 7, 2014 by staySICK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Cyclists get rolling coal'd quite frequently... personally I would love it to be considered assault but with motorists be able to get away with at least manslaughter against a cyclist, I won't count on it. The only way I see it happening is if someone rolling coal Bush Jr. Who is a cyclist and mountain bike rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 So my housemate is positing that due to US citizenship laws that the monarch of UK could theoretically become POTUS. His reasoning as such is that apparently your citizenship means if you're born on US soil = get US citizenship (which I reckon that might be the first mess up in the plan). So in this case Will n Kate get freaky and accidentally pop one out on their tour of Ohio or something. Now this kid grows up and such, and eventually moves into US politics. Now this is where I throw in my spanner which afaik means that you can't hold a foreign title and a US office (which I imagine is precisely a law made to stop this thing), without senate approval (and I'm pretty sure they'd go "nooopppe"). However should on that sliver of a chance they allow him to hold US office and still be Prince of Wales (or what not at that point) then eventually progresses to POTUS and in the first few month all his preceding family pops their clogs and he becomes Henry IX of UK, he'd be simultaneously both POTUS and head of state in UK and head of CofE as well (which I'm sure would bring in issues of it's own). Thus bringing peace to the world and the return of the lion turtles and so on so forth. Now please tell me where he has gone super wrong (and my "they likely wouldn't allow future king of UK to be holding office" isn't allowed as there's still a chance Senate (or whoever) might let it through despite being like the whole point US exists in the first place) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Actually looking at the actual text of the clause, it just says that the government can't grant titles and no one holding federal office shall accept a title from a foreign state without the consent of congress. It doesn't say anything about anyone who already has a title. Though obviously it would prevent him from accepting the title of king without congressional consent if he was already POTUS. But otherwise the plan looks solid to me. Anyone born in the US really is a US citizen, and being a natural born citizen, at least 35 years old, and having been a resident of the US for the previous 14 years are the only qualifications for being president. Besides actually getting elected, obviously. I really can't imagine congress approving it though. *Edit* - Also, is there something your friend thinks this would accomplish? At most it would unify the heads of state of the US and UK for 8 years (max time somebody can be president), and my understanding is the UK monarch is almost entirely ceremonial anyway. Not to mention that it's not like the US and UK are at each other's throats to begin with. Edited July 7, 2014 by TheMightyEthan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Right? I find chicks with accents are hot. Well, maybe not the Scottish accent or when they speak in a middle eastern language where it sounds like someone is clearing their throat. Other than that, the Irish accent and English are pretty hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoCreator Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://www.businessinsider.com.au/conservatives-purposely-making-cars-spew-black-smoke-2014-7 I've heard whispers of this. Is it really a thing? Seems super stupid, as well as something you'd think was illegal given modification to car and all that, never mind the environmental angle. II'll have to read the politico article, popped on a feed other day but didn't have time to check out. So glad I don't live in the American south, it's this kind of thing that would push me to violence; and with guns legal over there I'd have surely killed someone by now. Criminals who aren't allowed to own guns have guns. The legality isn't the issue. That's not my worry. I'm not going to get a gun illegally, but if I could just buy one without issue... that would be worrying. I consider myself a decent stable person, and I wouldn't trust myself with a gun. I'd only need to feel threatened once and someone could die, or heat of the moment in anger and boom... If I can't trust myself with a gun, I certainly can't trust the average person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 What a crock of shit. There's plenty of things you can kill yourself with pretty easily. Mind you, guns are certainly up there, but so are pills. Both have a chance to go wrong as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Isn't he talking about killing others though? Sure there's a lot other tools to kill others but it takes a lot more effort / skill to do it that way, and you have a higher chance of surviving a knife attack, for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoCreator Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 What a crock of shit. There's plenty of things you can kill yourself with pretty easily. Mind you, guns are certainly up there, but so are pills. Both have a chance to go wrong as well. I can see you're one of those old guard members on the forum who likes to make the new members feel welcome and encourages them to post, enriching the community and making for a friendly environment all round... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 What a crock of shit. There's plenty of things you can kill yourself with pretty easily. Mind you, guns are certainly up there, but so are pills. Both have a chance to go wrong as well. I can see you're one of those old guard members on the forum who likes to make the new members feel welcome and encourages them to post, enriching the community and making for a friendly environment all round... Sorry, but I don't baby anyone, nor do I think anyone deserves any special treatment. This is completely off-topic, btw, so take it elsewhere if you wish to complain. To get back on topic my point is completely valid. Killing yourself is easy. Killing others is easy. There's a million ways to do each. The classic saying "Guns don't kill people, people do" is very valid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheMightyEthan Posted July 9, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Yes, but at the same time access to guns significantly increases the risks of both homicides and suicides. Just like anything else, people are most likely to do those things when they're convenient and easy, and guns make it a lot more convenient and easy than other methods. Obviously having a gun isn't going to make a non-suicidal person kill themselves for no reason, but it does make a suicidal person a lot more likely to actually go through with it. Anyone who really wants to find a way to kill themselves or someone else is going to be able to find a way to do it with or without guns, sure, but having access to a gun makes people a lot more likely to kill themselves or others on an impulse. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-01/uosc-sho010314.php So by aged 23 nearly half of all US males have been arrested at some point. That seems really really high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 "Criminal records that show up in searches can impede employment, reduce access to housing, thwart admission to and financing for higher education and affect civic and volunteer activities such as voting or adoption. They also can damage personal and family relationships." Um, duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I'm sure that includes arrests for minor stuff like underage drinking or disorderly conduct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 "arrests" "minor stuff". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 What, do they not arrest people for minor offenses over there? Like here (in my county) a disorderly conduct (being loud and disruptive in public) can get you arrested, but the typical punishment is a $100 fine, which you can get up to like 90 days to pay. It's really minor, it's just one step above a speeding ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) Unless your'e being way out of line you certainly wouldn't get arrested for under-age drinking. A firm telling off from the bobby and likely driven home, but what's the point in arresting a kid? edit: I tend to see a lot of police hatred from americans online, and honestly if they weren't arresting a decent chunk of the population by they were 20 then maybe the police might not have much of an image problem? Either the American police are overzealous in their arresting or the American populace is extremely criminal. Edited July 11, 2014 by Deanb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Deanb: The police here are semi-militarized and act as though most folks are just criminals waiting to be caught. It's a very us-versus-them mindset, and aspects of it infect even the best officers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Heat Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 edit: I tend to see a lot of police hatred from americans online, and honestly if they weren't arresting a decent chunk of the population by they were 20 then maybe the police might not have much of an image problem? Either the American police are overzealous in their arresting or the American populace is extremely criminal. I think it is lot more from column B than column A. A lot of the people I know of who bitch about police are the people who frequently do things that are, how you say, frowned upon. Or they're anti-establishment types who like to say 'FUCK THE POLICE!' a lot, regardless of whether or not the cop is in the right. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) I get appointed to represent kids charged with MiC (minor in consumption) all the time, although it's more frequently adults who are not yet 21 (the legal drinking age). It's similar to the disorderly conduct, it's not really all that severe a penalty but you do get arrested for it. *Edit* - @Alex: yeah, it's definitely some of both, but every single person I represent wants to explain how it's the cops' fault, they were just minding their own business, they never touched that lying bitch, and have no clue where her bruises came from, they didn't have that much to drink, they only blew a 0.012, they were perfectly capable of driving, that guy was running his mouth and deserved to get beat up, goddamn cops just need to mind their own goddamned business. Edited July 11, 2014 by TheMightyEthan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Heat Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 I've never really understood the appeal of drinking while underage. It's not like booze is going anywhere. Sure as hell can't be for the taste, because the stuff ones dad buys is probably going to be Bud Light or some other domestic beer and no amount of the seasoning that is being verboten will make it taste any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Because it's wrong! And forbidden! Also: so I take it I'm the only one on the forum that's been arrested? That's surprising/disappointing. But from my experience: cops are dicks. Edited July 12, 2014 by staySICK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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