Mister Jack Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 See, this is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm talking about. Who made that dumb rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I think it makes sense to require you to be registered as a certain party in order to vote in their primary. The idea is for the party to pick who their candidate is going to be, so obviously only members of that party should have a say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Fair enough. That's why I'm registered as a Democrat in NYC even though I dislike the national party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Over Californee way, undecides like me get to vote in the Democrat primary. So we got that going for us... not much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Well, this is pretty accurate. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Also works if, instead of media orgs, you put in GOP candidates' heads. He's the modern Teflon Don indeed. And now that I think about it, Ethan's logic does not apply to presidential primaries, so he must really be a Republican. Not that being a Republican means anything anymore now that the party is eating itself alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 You're right, it doesn't apply to presidential nominees, but it applies to local/state offices. I'm registered Republican so I can vote in those primaries, and figured that since I'm registered Republican anyway I might as well go vote in the presidential primary too. I'm one of those people who doesn't like the Democrats because they're too far right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 I know our politics are very similar; that's why I'm ribbing you about belonging to the GOP. I don't think I could cast a vote for any of the GOP contenders for president, though. Then again, I have the luxury of knowing my vote won't count in anything except contested city and state office primaries. And NY has two primaries aside from the national primary this year . Shit, that reminds me that I need to get an absentee ballot for the presidential primary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Knowing my vote won't matter anyway in real elections is why I was confident enough to go for Jill Stein in 2012. I just could not in good conscience vote for Obama. If I had been in Ohio or somewhere where my vote might have actually affected the outcome I would have been much more conflicted about it, because I 100% preferred Obama over Romney. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 I like the Green Party, but ever since 2000 I have been leery of voting for them in a national election. But why Kasich? If I were registered in the GOP, I would 100% vote for Trump because he is bringing chaos to the party I vote against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Because at this point I'm scared there's a decent chance the Republican candidate will win no matter who it is, even if it is Trump, so I chose the one I am least opposed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Voting for Trump in the hopes of sabotaging the Republican Party would be like putting a crack in the local dam so that your neighbor's house becomes flooded. If there are enough cracks, sure, your neighbor's house is flooded, but there was enough water to flood your house as well. If Trump somehow becomes president, and God help us if he does, at least Ethan can take comfort that he didn't vote for him at any stage of the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 In my view, Kasich is the Republican most likely to get Republican-ass shit done if he were President, so there's no way in hell I'd vote for him. In fact, Trump is the only one who might not try to appoint the reanimated corpse of Scalia to the Supreme Court. That said, I fully expect there to be a new President Clinton next January regardless of who wins the nomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 I hope you're right, though I'd prefer a President Sanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 It'll either be Sanders or Clinton. Either a reasonable mix up of what we have (for at least a term) or more of the same for eight more years. If it is somehow Trump, it'll be such a fun shit show. The White House will turn into reality TV... so stereotypically American. I can almost picture the whole of America looking like any one of Trump's casino and "resorts". Like guys, it's a fun thought experiment but to non-ironically or troll vote for him is... odd. I guess this is what you get with such a large and diverse country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 It's what we get with a fundamentally broken political system in a large and diverse country, actually. I like Sanders more than Clinton, but I think he overstates his ability to get anything he proposes done in the face of a GOP-controlled Congress (and the GOP will control congress for a while since GOP statehouses have gerrymandered congressional districts to hell). I do think his differences with Clinton on foreign policy matters are important and I will vote for him for that reason alone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 I think he overstates his ability to get anything he proposes done in the face of a GOP-controlled Congress Same. It'll be frustrating but it would be interesting to see if anything sticks. If anything, maybe folks will start to take a serious look at Congress. No matter what the opposition says, the presidency is not a dictatorship. It requires Congress to follow suit. One thing I've been thinking about is, lets say Trump wins everything, will the GOP controlled Congress play ball with Trump? What if was a DNC controlled Congress and with Sanders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 The Democrats would not be completely on-board with Sanders, but I'm willing to bet they'd play ball with him infinity times more willingly than the GOP would play with Trump. Though, if Trump wins President that could have a side effect of even crazier people being elected to Congress as well. (Crazier than current, not crazier than Trump.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Push come to shove, assuming he picks a sensible Vice president someone could always shoot him. It's not like it's an uncommon thing (one in eleven chance so far) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Dean, you're always welcomed to my house and all but I don't think Uncle Sam will allow it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I think that would be a lot harder to accomplish today than it has been historically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 So this is interesting, even with all the trustworthiness concerns people have about Clinton she's still polling second-highest among the candidates in that category. (Ignore the headline, it's not supported by the poll, which was just "would you trust [blank] as commander in chief", not whether you want them or not.) Percent who said "yes" for each candidate Sanders - 38% Clinton - 31% Trump - 26% Cruz - 20% Kasich - 19% Rubio - 16% This isn't directly related, but I feel like Rubio looks like a 7yo boy in a suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 That 20% of people trust Cruz about anything is disconcerting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 Rubio bows out from the race but it's due to Trump... I'm kind of with Ethan and think Trump could defeat Hillary. Even I'm having questions if I could vote for Hillary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredEffinChopin Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 This isn't directly related, but I feel like Rubio looks like a 7yo boy in a suit. He whines like one too. He slips into it in debates pretty frequently. It's amazing that he hasn't gotten that under control with all of his rehearsal. Trump can definitely beat Clinton. Especially if Trump decides that he's going to discuss whatever favors he might have received in return for funding her campaigns. It seems to me that he's the only candidate that may be able to make Sanders' case (at least with her in particular) better than Sanders can, or at least better than Sanders is willing to. She's also about a scandal (fake or not) away from being even more unlikable than she already is among many voters. She also doesn't seem to move independent voters in any meaningful way as things stand. Don't get me wrong, I think it's still Clinton's race to lose, as I expect a strong anti-Trump sentiment to have settled in even deeper among voters by the time November comes around. She's a pretty vulnerable candidate though. Not much would surprise me in this election at this point. I feel like I'm living in some sort of didactic novel, or a satire film. Or a mental hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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