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Rumor has it a group of Republicans are going to back a former CIA officer and congressional aide, Evan McMullin, as a third-party alternative to Trump.

 

I honestly can't decide if I think such a candidate would take more votes away from Trump or from Clinton. My gut says Trump, but part of me wonders if McMullin won't provide another alternative for disenchanted Republicans who might have considered voting for Clinton.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/08/18/justice-department-says-it-will-end-use-of-private-prisons/?postshare=9221471534255226&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.8b2d11636d73

 

So the phasing out of private prisons is a thing on the federal level now. It's the right move. Now we need state and local to follow suit.

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Private state prisons are very deeply entrenched in state politics. Votes and money; law-and-order voters like them and the prison companies donate a lot to campaigns. Some have given kickbacks to judges for sentencing people (often teens) to specific private programs and prisons. Closing prisons or converting them to government-run costs money and jobs, too, and a lot of states are struggling with their budgets in this era of heavy GOP control of most states.

 

California's system is probably the biggest and among the worst, even though it is a very Democratic state. however. 

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tbh at first I figured this'd be a generic "go vote" thing, impartial and all but it's definitely leaning towards one candidate :P

 

One of these guys played a president on TV so you should certainly listen (he's a pretty good president on TV..from the bits I've seen. I've heard it's a good show, my Step-dad really enjoyed it).

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I get in theory why they wouldn't want to be seen to be voting "against 9/11 families" but this is stupid. Are they planning to bring SA to a court, sue them and then have them pay money? How would you even enforce that? You'd go to SA with your Supreme Court Writ saying "You owe me all the dollars." and they would say... "No thanks, we'll keep them." and then what? The US Gov't offsets it against any debt owed to SA and pays the victims, and then SA says, "Well, USA just defaulted on its debts." and then the whole promissory note, currency thing falls apart...

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Yes, the courts can make and enforce all sorts of orders that would have a serious effect on Saudi's business relations with U.S. companies. But it is very dumb to give the judicial branch a major role in international relations between the US and foreign states as it undercuts the executive's necessary power to manage those relations (and the legislative's comparatively minor role in the same). The law will be modified so that any such lawsuits will have to be approved, essentially, by the executive more than the current law already does (that is, currently the executive can put those suits on hold indefinitely if it claims to be working on resolving the a lawsuits' claims diplomatically).

 

Edit: and, of course, the tit-for-tat possibility of allowing foreign suits against sovereign states is enormous.

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