Thursday Next Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 The weirdest voting thing to my mind is that you can be a candidate, and the person in charge of how the election is run. If that happened in an African country everyone would be demanding that the UN stand over their shoulder to make sure no cheating takes place. In the US, it's just a "hey, what can you do?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 I agree it's bizarre, and they should have to recuse themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Trump has announced his desire to terminate the INF (treaty eliminating nuclear/standard missiles with ranges from 500-5500KM). Russia went all "sure, let's play that game again", so yeah, that's going to be a thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 Supposedly, and I stress supposedly because you can't believe a word that comes out of this administration, but supposedly the Russians have been deploying missiles in violation of that treaty for years already, so we're actually doing things the right way by formally pulling out before reciprocating. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yeah, I like how he's going to change the constitution with an executive order. Really shows a thorough understanding of our system of government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 I thought the president was like a king. /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 To be honest, even the suggestion of voiding the 14th Amendment is so batshit insane and insulting that it blows my already blown mind. Maybe because it directly applies to me and a vast majority of people I know since our parents are immigrants. We all collectively went "... What?" at the suggestion. Like jeez, we're not too many steps from being citizens of no nation. That thought is terrifying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 If it makes you feel better, even under Trump's insane proposal, birthright citizenship would still apply to the children of legal immigrants. It's just illegal immigrants whose children would be denied citizenship. (I obviously don't know the immigration status of your parents.) The 14th Amendment says "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." Basically, some crazy people claim that the clause "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" excludes illegal immigrants because they didn't come here pursuant to our laws. It's an argument without merit, but even under that crazy theory people who immigrated legally are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, so their kids get citizenship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) I kind of want him to change the amendment like yeah, nbd, so then there can (in theory) be a proper conversation about a certain other amendment that conservatives have a massive boner for. Also, the "not subject to law" reasoning is mental. If they aren't subject to the law, then they haven't broken the law, because you can't break a law you are not subject to, so they are not in the country illegally, as, for it to be illegal, they would have to be subject to the law to be able to break it. If you accept that immigrants who are not in the country legally are "not subject to the law", then you'd also have to accept that "freemen of the land" wankers are also not subject to the law. It's fucking bonkers, he's fucking bonkers. He just says whatever bullshit comes to him and his sucker base lap it up. It's infuriating! Edited October 31, 2018 by Thursday Next 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Yeah, my thought has always been "if they commit a crime we can prosecute them, therefore they are subject to our jurisdiction". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 The racist reinterpretation of the 14th Amendment is mind-blowing. Ending birthright citizenship is also antithetical to the idea of that America is not an ethnostate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) Sooner or later I think I'll lose a buddy, a friend or family to this. Edit: Oh man, this reply. Not sure if I should be angry or laughing. Edited November 8, 2018 by Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 That's so stupid on two different levels. First, that once every six months would be quite "regularly", as in there would be a regular interval between shootings. Second, it happens much more often than that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Hey, @TheMightyEthan, you gonna change your registration to Dem now that Kansas appears to be backing away from absolute GOP rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Maybe if the trend continues. I might run for local office at some point though, and based on uncontested races in this county having a D next to your name automatically loses you about 600 votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Well, if you want to be associated with the fascist party, I guess that's your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Hey, maybe Ethan will be the grassroot that saves the Republican party from the insanity they dug themselves in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr. GOH! said: Well, if you want to be associated with the fascist party, I guess that's your choice. One must be a member of the Party if one wants to get ahead in this world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Umm... Due to how interconnected the world is right now, I cannot even escape the news from home while on vacation. So I have to ask: Why are we tear gassing people at the border after sending troops down there weeks to a month plus in advance? Like what the fuck has the US been up to since I was gone for a little more than a week? Did we technically gas a foreign nation? So many questions. So many concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 I guess it's better than shooting them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 27, 2018 Report Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) If they shot them, it would be big enough news to show up on the front page here in Taiwan. Still, isn't it a bit dicey on using what is classed as a chemical weapon into another nation? As far as the UN/Geneva or whatever looks at it, tear gas isn't much different from the deadly gases. Troops cannot even use tear gas. Edited November 27, 2018 by Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) The only person, Defense Secretary James Mattis, that I trust in the Trump administration is stepping down/resigning. He's literally the sane one to keep Trump in check at something. Fuck. After what he said last week during the Schumer and Pelosi meeting... Like clockwork. Edited December 21, 2018 by Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 "Ye gods! A government shutdown! My luncheon is ruined! But what if...I were to purchase fast food and disguise it as a White House banquet? Ho ho ho...Delightfully devilish, Donald..." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Well, here is the second $0 payday for 800,000 federal workers. Like sure, a fair number are technically working but essentially the US lost 800,000 jobs for a month straight. Who knows how many secondary jobs are affected... All for the stupid fucking wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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