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At this point it's not so much weather but bullshit politics to save Donald some face... Whatever he has left. 

 

And this was the forecast track made for that Sunday during which this whole thing kind of started. 

 

You can see all the 5-day track here: https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php?product=5day_cone_no_line_and_wind

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I hope the investigation yields something else that doesn't appear quite so politically motivated. Like, I agree that withholding aid to another country to coerce them into helping you get dirt on a political rival is an absolutely monstrous abuse of power, but it definitely makes it look like the Democrats are only worried about it for political reasons rather than legal ones.

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You know, I'm still feeling the sting of the 2016 Democrat primary. In the way that I'm kind of getting flashbacks of it. 

 

Will I bend the knee if say Biden gets the nomination? No. Being in California allows me to protest vote. It practically guaranteed that the Democrat presidential candidate will get this state. My reading of the situation don't make me think it will be any different this time around. Though it would be kind of funny if Trump won California. If the Democrat establishment doesn't get the message* with that then I dunno what to say. 

 

* Meaning that they are not left enough since well... they are conservative by most other countries standards. 

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If you're gonna protest vote make sure to actually vote for a more left-leaning party, instead of just not voting. They need to see that there are votes there to be had if they would come more left.

 

And yeah, I didn't vote for Clinton, and I won't vote for Biden. But like you, being in Kansas means I can vote however I want because it's going red no matter what, so my vote doesn't actually affect the outcome.

 

The latest polls show Sanders up in both Iowa and New Hampshire though, so ? (I would personally prefer Warren, because I'm tired of old white men running everything, and at least she's not a man, but I certainly won't turn my nose up at Sanders).

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Yeah, I'm not doing what I did in 2016 by voting on everything but the president. I should had written in Bernie back then. Probably wouldn't be counted or rejected like my 2016 Primary vote... This coming Primary, I'm going in person to vote, not just dropping off my mail-in ballot. 

 

Edit: I guess a President cannot be impeached and convicted of obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and other high crimes and misdemeanors while going on to aid their re-election campaign if they are doing any or all those crimes in the best interest of national security because they believe they are the best person to be President...  that's such a breathtaking stance.

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Now that I think about it, the (Republican) Senate basically will do a jury nullification. As a jury, the Senate also has tremendous power to decide if additional evidence or witnesses will be called. Isn't this typically done by the presiding judge (Chief Justice John Roberts, in this case)? I suppose the change here is to make the Chief Justice appear more apolitical...

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I really should look up how the Clinton impeachment/trial went down. Probably should do Nixon's as well but that deal was so concrete that he resigned in shame. 

For Clinton's, I think I hear about "high crimes and misdemeanors" attached to the trial. The House managers failed to argue for the "high" part so Clinton wasn't removed from office. While Clinton did lie among other things (?) about his sexual relations with the White House intern, it clearly wasn't enough to remove him. As for Trump, we'll find out tomorrow. I suppose his orders and actions is clearly not enough to warrant his removal.

 

Anyhow... Whoever decided to use an app for caucuses, primaries and voting needs to educate themselves about the dangers. That is like the last thing you want in the democratic process. Probably be faster to do it by paper. No malfunctions either. 

Really puts confidence in the Democrats party... *2016 Primary flash backs*

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Nixon was never actually even impeached, he resigned once it became clear he would be, so there was never any trial procedure discussed.

 

With Clinton it's basically as you say, they proved he lied under oath in a civil lawsuit against him for conduct when he was governor of Arkansas, but since it didn't have anything to do with him abusing his power as president they didn't feel it warranted removal.

 

Trump is worse, because his very much directly ties in to him abusing his power as president, so by acquitting him they're basically saying nothing the president does can be worthy of impeachment.

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Something a little different from me... Trump and the elections is just maddening to focus on. Anyhow:

 

As weird and frankly heartless as it seems, despite all the gun violence that breaks my heart, I firmly believe in the spirit of the 2nd Amendment. We're going about it in a fucked up manner though. Be it how people go about getting a gun and how people treat guns. I reject the notion that any checks and balances to the 2nd Amendment is infringement upon it. It actually confers the respect and care the 2nd Amendment deserves for being second only to the 1st Amendment (Freedom of speech). 

 

With that said, it blows my mind that civilians don't have to go through similar classes and training. It's not like we as a country don't have resources for such classes/training either. Hell, I argue it should be proctored by Uncle Sam themselves, free of charge, available to any citizen. As it is your right. Hell, maybe even toss in some food as well. In these classes and training, you will learn about guns, how they function, types and all that fun stuff. Probably in just day one. The rest of the time is to safety and practice.

 

Yes, there are those who knows and follows every gun safety practices. It's built in their culture or family practices. Great. It doesn't hurt to have a formal reminder. In many ways it's not unlike safety days/week in the construction industry. Complacency leads to trouble. The sort of trouble that results in someone doesn't go home at the end of the day.

 

And yes, it won't stop people from being evil or straight up dumb. Maybe... just maybe, we should look up mental health's role in shootings... like we said we should have done for the last 20+ years. 

 

Of course, another route is just plain getting rid of the 2nd Amendment. Not like we're treating it with the respect and care it deserves. Eaurgh...

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Heh. One hell of a slip up. Maybe, just maybe, we should overturn Citizen United.

 

Also one part where Biden was loudly/aggressively talking about China opening up rubbed me the wrong way even if I get where Biden was coming from.  My mind drifted to this to compensate with humor.

 

Anyhow, fuck. DNC is a long ways off... not to mention the general in November. This year's politics is going to take a lot out of me. 

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On 2/26/2020 at 2:54 PM, TheMightyEthan said:

Anyone who hasn't seen that original video really needs to.

 

And yes, if Bloomberg gets the nomination I will be voting third party. Also probably if Biden does, and maybe if Buttigieg does.

 

Can I ask why?

I consider myself fairly well informed on the US election (at least compared to your average Brit) but surely even a Joe Biden is preferable to another 4 years of Trump?

I totally understand people going hard against the likes of Biden, Bloomberg and Mayor Pete but I've got to wonder if it's not better to be 'anyone but Trump' at this point? Especially with the way the dude seems to be riding high in the polls?

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Because I think voting for them to defeat Trump would be winning the battle and losing the war. I'm sick of racist sexist billionaire assholes running everything, and I'm tired of "moderates" who value compromise in and of itself, without any regard for the actual effects of what they're doing. The Democratic party needs to swing hard to the left (to put it in perspective, they're our "liberal" option, and overall they're about on par with the Tories in terms of actual positions on issues), and that won't happen until they see they have to to win. So yes I think 4 more years under Trump would be worse than 4 years under any of those three candidates, but that keeps the party center-right in the long term. If they nominate a moderate, then I'll vote for a party that's farther left, and hopefully they'll see they left votes lying on the table, and maybe decide they should move that direction.

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The normal that the moderates are peddling to get us back to is a just isn't there anymore and really, it was an illusion that no one can maintain. Especially unmaintainable by holier-than-thou leaders. It played no small role in getting us Trump, who's holier-than-thou in the completely different fashion. He's also a symptom of a larger problem.

 

I believe, nominated or not and win or lose, Bernie (now along with Warren, and back in 2016) has started a progressive push that I don't think will be suppressed. Suppression would probably break the Democrat party... which may not be a bad thing. Break the illusion that Ethan mentioned (the Democratic party is pretty conservative as a whole).

 

Honestly, this is going to be a long process, probably a decade or more of elections and reforms to get something like M4A or GND in place. It'll need the House and the Senate. It'll also need state and local governments. All assuming we don't tear ourselves apart or some shit and I become a raging old man in a failing world.

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Yeah, I said I hope the Dems will see they need to come farther to the left, and I do, but a less-good-but-still-better-than-now option would be the Dems continue to refuse to come to the left, end up dying as a party, and an actual left-wing party rise in their place.

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