TheMightyEthan Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 They did buy the gun for him, and refuse to take him out of school when he was drawing pictures of people being shot and writing "the thoughts won't stop". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Joe Manchin can choke on a dick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 In order to past BBB we must split out BIF, huh? I'm pretty sure Manchin was an opponent then too. Biden and the Dems leadership got played, again. Another fuck up is with the response to Omicron. Biden is not addressing anything until Tuesday. Probably stalling to making it all about individual responsibility. How much more do I and other responsible people have to give? There got to be some collective action like say sending every family/everyone a box of N95 masks and test kits. None of this reimbursement nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 Well we're getting a test in the mail next year (can we get masks too? Can this be a reoccurring thing too?) and got student loans deferred till May. We're gonna bully the fuck out of them for anything lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 The Senate passed a bill to make Daylight Savings Time permanent! Now we just need the House to do the same. The only part I don't approve of is that it won't take effect until next year. Make it this year you cowards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 I'm surprised it would be that soon. I know it would be at least 5 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473 Roe v. Wade is likely to be overturned. I guess it's just too hard to just let women decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 This country is so fucked up. I expected this though, it's why I'm already scheduled to get a vasectomy this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 If I hear any bullshit about how America is "the greatest country in the world" one more time I'm gonna karate chop a bitch in the throat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Having an openly political supreme court has always struck me as a potential issue tbf. Like, I'm not naïve enough to think that UK Supreme Court Justices are apolitical, (they almost certainly, being mostly rich white folk, lean slightly to the right in the majority) but at least UK judges politics are personal and supposed to be set aside, rather than being public and carrying an expectation that they will be followed as appears to be the case in US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Oh no no no, you have it all wrong, read any US Supreme Court opinion and you will see that they are not a political body, they are just following the law, politics are checked at the door... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 I mean, no surprise but if that's a joke, then it's a poor one. Normalization of war criminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 I think the initial statement was an honest slip of the tongue (Freudian slip?). It's immediately after when he mutters "Iraq too" and everyone laughs that I find truly horrifying, because that was a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted May 26, 2022 Report Share Posted May 26, 2022 The Uvalde school shooting aftermath is just getting worse and worse as the fog clears on the timeline and facts. And no, the shooter locked the door. That's the barricade. The shooter was 18 so probably knows all the procedures... And of course the powers that be in Texas is going all in on the NRA talking points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielpholt Posted May 26, 2022 Report Share Posted May 26, 2022 Apparently the guy got through two layers of 'good guy with gun' (school security and local police) before had actually got into the school itself. If that doesn't dispel the myth that giving guns to well meaning civilians is a bad idea I don't know what will. The kid knew the training, he knew the procedure and he knew how to evade capture for enough time to commit this fucking awful act. Mind blowing that we're still having this conversation. It was over after Sandy Hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted May 26, 2022 Report Share Posted May 26, 2022 You'd think that would get them to stop using the "good guy with gun" argument after this and yet Ted Cruz just did that exact fucking thing. Fuck you, Ted Cruz, by the way. I hope you get AIDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted May 27, 2022 Report Share Posted May 27, 2022 Regarding people coming over here... Sure there's a COVID signal but our response to COVID is another nail on why people are hesitant to come over here. This country, as a whole, is fucking insane. 10 hours ago, danielpholt said: Apparently the guy got through two layers of 'good guy with gun' (school security and local police) before had actually got into the school itself. If that doesn't dispel the myth that giving guns to well meaning civilians is a bad idea I don't know what will. The kid knew the training, he knew the procedure and he knew how to evade capture for enough time to commit this fucking awful act. Mind blowing that we're still having this conversation. It was over after Sandy Hook. The story has been changing by the hour it seems but whatever the initial response was, the following 40 minutes to an hour is inexcusable. Also, Parkland had a school resource officer as the first shots happened. He fled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 They are 100% going to blame: (i) The school resource officer, who really signed up to watch kids walk through a metal detector and search the odd bag for a knife; (ii) The general security protocols in the school; and, if pushed hard enough (iii) The cops a little bit for not being more gung-ho. The right won't go too hard on cops, because that would set a dangerous precedent of suggesting that cops are in any way accountable for negative outcomes of their action/inaction. I sorta feel like, at this point, just for the hell of it, why would you not try a ban on private gun ownership and a gov't mandated buy-back plan. The only reason not to try it at this point, is that you are terrified that it would work, and then you'd be really fucked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Thursday Next said: I sorta feel like, at this point, just for the hell of it, why would you not try a ban on private gun ownership and a gov't mandated buy-back plan. The only reason not to try it at this point, is that you are terrified that it would work, and then you'd be really fucked. Well there's the obvious supreme court precedent that it's unconstitutional to ban private ownership. Even if that weren't the case though, there are so many gun nuts that any Republican that supports any kind of gun control will be immediately ousted by their party. So that's why not to try it for them. I saw a study that found that if a mass shooting occurs in a Democratic-controlled state then gun laws remain unchanged (they tend to have pretty restrictive laws already), but if it occurs in a Republican-controlled state then gun laws are likely to be relaxed within 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 1 hour ago, TheMightyEthan said: Well there's the obvious supreme court precedent that it's unconstitutional to ban private ownership. Even if that weren't the case though, there are so many gun nuts that any Republican that supports any kind of gun control will be immediately ousted by their party. So that's why not to try it for them. I saw a study that found that if a mass shooting occurs in a Democratic-controlled state then gun laws remain unchanged (they tend to have pretty restrictive laws already), but if it occurs in a Republican-controlled state then gun laws are likely to be relaxed within 6 months. I don't mean a particular State or Federal gov't. I mean the USA as a whole, just agree to give it a punt, tear up the 2nd, ban private ownership, buy back the guns in an amnesty so hard working Americans are not out of pocket. Like at this point, it can't really get much worse, so the only people with something to lose by trying it are people who are invested in continuing to promote private gun ownership (whether financially or politically). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 Oh, I see, to which I refer you to the aforementioned gun nuts. And our broken system which promotes minority rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 Priorities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mal Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) On 6/1/2022 at 5:41 AM, Thursday Next said: They are 100% going to blame: (i) The school resource officer, who really signed up to watch kids walk through a metal detector and search the odd bag for a knife; (ii) The general security protocols in the school; and, if pushed hard enough (iii) The cops a little bit for not being more gung-ho. The right won't go too hard on cops, because that would set a dangerous precedent of suggesting that cops are in any way accountable for negative outcomes of their action/inaction. If you get into the weeds of it all, none of them are under a legal duty to protect anything. LegalEagle just posted this today too, which summarize it all. You can blame the SRO or the police but they literally didn't have the duty to do anything. If they wanted to, they could still be at their offices or just go about their day while Uvalde or any shooting went down. It should be noted that these rulings comes from a conservative/libertarian school of thought/worldview. Under other schools of though/worldview, things can be different but these are the precedents we kind of have to work with. Edited June 4, 2022 by Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 Ugh... Libertarianism... Hobbes summed up where that leads in Leviathan: “There be no propriety, no Dominion, no Mine and Thine distinct; but that to be every man's that he can get; and for so long as he can keep it.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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