Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted November 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/senate-passes-bill-allowing-indefinite-detention-americans-considers-bill-authorizing-mo Well, I'm thinking about emigrating now. Anyone want to make the case for their own country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/30/michele-bachmann-us-embassy-iran_n_1121873.html Is it too much to ask for these candidates to properly prepare for their public speeches and debates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I actually have Rush Limbaugh set on my radio alarm in the morning and even he somewhat said the Rebublican nominees are like a circus. He put it this way : "They're sort of like a circus but not really." That is a lot coming from him. As for the fact on why I chose to listen to Rush... there's nothing else that I have found to give me some snippit of news in entertaining form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battra92 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I didn't vote for John McCain, but I could at least see him as a credible opponent to Barack Obama John McCain was nowhere near a credible candidate. Most rank and file Republicans hated McCain as their nominee. He was selected because he was the so-called "safe" candidate. He was afraid to campaign against Obama on issues, personal deficiencies (which are all pretty clear now) as well as his strikingly out of the mainstream ideology. I don't know if it was fears of racism charges or if McCain is that dumb. The fact that he married into money didn't help nor did it help that he seemed to try to position himself left of center. Really, the only decent thing McCain had going for him was he was a real genuine war hero. That doesn't make someone presidental. Then again, he was more qualified than Obama but that's not saying much. This election cycle is going to be dirty. REALLY dirty. Obama can't run on his record because, outside of the death of Bin Laden (which I think we can all agree wasn't really his doing) he has had no success in turning the country around finanacially. We can argue about the causes but quite frankly, the American public doesn't want to hear "It's Bush's fault" any more. The so-called "Great Uniter" has spent the last 3 years in office pitting one group against another and it's no wonder there's so much civil unrest in this country. The economy is crappy, the country is deep in debt to the Chinese, Americans are cutting back on Christmas, unemployment hovers around 10% (with the administration changing the numbers for damage control) so people are sick and tired. Since Obama can't run on a platform of peace and prosperity, you're going to hear a countless barrage against whomever the Republican nominee is. The media will dig so far into his past (doing what they didn't do in 2008 to the Bamster) that we'll know what his parents had for dinner the night he was conceived. There won't be much paid to real issues that face us, which is sad as we are in pretty dire times right now. America is at a crossroads and we need some real leadership and a real transformation in government. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 http://news.yahoo.co...-133707949.html Unsure which to put it in, probably more fitting here. edit: nope I'll put it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 America is at a crossroads and we need some real leadership and a real transformation in government. As much as I would love to think that one president on either side could really help out the country, I don't see it happening with Congress like this, and that's why I've kinda stopped following the presidental side of this election and am instead a lot more interested in how the congressional elections turn out. Congress right now is the biggest bipartisan circlejerk I've seen in all my lifetime, choosing to focus more on he said/she saids and spite than actually trying to get anything done. I'd love to believe a strong force at President can turn that around, but I don't see it, and especially not in any of these candidates so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted December 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 What the fuck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 If it makes you feel any better, the charges against him were dropped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/2438-Read-the-Military-Detention-Bill- You know about that bill that going through Congress that would allow detention of anyone suspected to be a terrorist or working against the US without trail or charge...? It passed. Back in my mind I'm going "Not sure if serious...". I swear that the US and China never get too tired of one another because with this having the potential to pass, Obama is going to veto it hopefully... it would get ugly for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted December 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Michelle Bachmann doesn't need to use silly rules like LOGIC in her conversations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Newt Gingrich is leading in Iowa? NEWT GINGRICH? Has everyone forgotten that he's completely INSANE? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyRan Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) Newt Gingrich is leading in Iowa? NEWT GINGRICH? Has everyone forgotten that he's completely INSANE? Hey, Herman "9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors" Cain was doing pretty damn well for a while. Everything logic-wise has been up for grabs after that point. Michelle Bachmann doesn't need to use silly rules like LOGIC in her conversations! So, so many wrong things in this line of logic. I'll just leave it at two: 1. Making two things equal doesn't give one "privileges". If she fails to understand that she didn't even pass first grade in whatever hellhole of a school she went to. 2. Replace "Gays" in her conversation with "women" and hoo boy. Never change laws because they're already laws, eh? Then go back to reading "how to tend to your man" books from the 50's. Edited December 4, 2011 by RockyRan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I love it. Of course gay people can get married to other gay people. They just have to be of the opposite sex... Riiiiight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyRan Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I love it. Of course gay people can get married to other gay people. They just have to be of the opposite sex... Riiiiight. See, this isn't about me being a biased dumbass with antiquated misconceptions, this is about preserving the sanctity of marriage! Marriage is so sacred and divine that rather than marrying a person you truly love, you should only get into a loveless marriage that will likely fold in <2 years. Now THAT is the preservation of the purity of marriage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 My only consolation is knowing that there is no way this nutcase woman is going to be the president of the United States. I think even most republicans know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 http://youtu.be/2K8CGeC2M_U Mrs. Bachmann, how does it feel to be outwitted by an eight year old? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/12/06/fact-sheet-working-advance-human-rights-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transge Thanks, Mr. President! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 The problem with this whole debate is that it centers around the personal beliefs of whoever's in power: if Obama is a social liberal who wants to see all LGBT people living happily together as they please, then he'll work towards those goals, whereas if a social conservative were in office he'd work to preserve "the sanctity of marriage" or whatever. I want to know what business the government thinks it has in prohibiting consensual acts between adults or social relationships (such as marriage) at all. Butt out and let people make their own decisions, even if you don't personally agree with them. At its heart, it's an issue of whether government has the right to regulate and control our own choices, rather than a religious or social issue as it's often painted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 The problem is they're already regulating. You need an Obama to de-regulate them. If Obama were too "butt out" then nothing would change. Which is not what the LGBT community wants. Besides which all policies centre around the personal belief of whoever is in power. No leader would ever campaign for a cause that they fundamentally disagree with. It's not so much that Obama is LGBT friendly, rather that he is not LGBT unfriendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 The problem is they're already regulating. You need an Obama to de-regulate them. That may be true, so long as it's true deregulation and not just another law saying a certain thing is OK to do. No leader would ever campaign for a cause that they fundamentally disagree with.. Can a candidate disagree with a personal belief and still uphold others' rights to hold those beliefs? I like to think an ideal champion of human rights would campaign his/her heart out to defend the people's liberty to live their own lives, regardless of his/her own personal opinion on those choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Duke just RT'ed this.Problems:Gays can serve openly in militaryKids can't celebrate Xmaslolwut. One of these is made up and the other is something recently put into law. Let's work out which one is which.Also it was my understanding that being Christian is a-okay, it's the "I'm not ashamed to admit I'm atheist" that's the big huge political no-no in US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Yeah, the right acts like anything short of a Christian theocracy is persecution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Social conservatives care a great deal about the person's personal beliefs and religion, whereas other political alignments may not care so much. It's totally silly because "small-government" Republicans voted overwhelmingly for Bush in 2000 and 2004, when he pretty clearly was not for small government at all, simply because he played the Christian card. Vote for the policies and the man, not the religion I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battra92 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Obama to America: You suck. I understand this plays well to those outside of America or those who feel that America owes them something but to people like me who go to work daily and try to do the best I can to support my family. Replace working or middle class with prolitariat and replace "the rich" with bourgeois and you have something straight from Marx and Lenin. Jonah Goldberg said that if you woke up out of a coma from 3 years and heard that speech you'd have no idea this man was our president. Seriously, this man's disdain for his fellow citizens sickens my stomach. On the flip side, I guess Obama can no longer deny being a socialist. He's the bonafide reincarnation of Huey Long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) Rick Perry should have his ass kicked. This sort of thing should not fly in this country. Fuck him. I hope he chokes on his own ignorance and bigotry. FIXED. Edited December 7, 2011 by DukeOfPwn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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