Yantelope V2 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/151254/failing-home-ec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 House keepers? Really? I don't know anyone who ever had one, and I was friends with some pretty rich kids. Both parents working as well, that's the norm here. Yeah, I know people who have them, (low income day workers are cheap in Texas I guess). A lot of wealthier families have them to do the major cleaning like vacuuming, dusting bathrooms, laundry etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 uhh, I hate to be the one to say this...but I've had housekeepers or rather housemaids and nannys. Some who pretty much stayed with us and some who used to come for 4-6 hours a day (3-5 times a week). My mother was of pretty poor health and my father was rarely home and it was pretty difficult to take care of moderately big homes. Both me and my brother had nannies - the nannies we had usually were older women who loved to take care of kids and stayed with us till we turned 3. The housemaids who lived with us were young unmarried women if they were the live-in ones. In the class system I was raised in, it wasn't abnormal, to be honest. Honestly there are some interesting things in the non-western world. When I lived in India people from one of the neighbouring states used to beg for alms in our state and would go back with a fairly large amount of money enough to buy houses and living fairly comfortably. The thing is when we discuss stuff in this forum in general we only speak in terms of western politics, cultures and policies. I was raised all over so I suppose that's why I don't really have a direct point of reference. Also my mother was a Science Teacher (I'm not going into a long and detailed explanation of why she didn't pursue medicine despite getting into a few big universities) and while I was a toddler she decided to be a stay at home mum. I attribute a lot of my curiousity, scientific knowledge and education that I developed in my early years to my mother. She worked at schools before I was born and for a few years before my brother was born (we're a decade apart) and after that just held private tuitions in the house for a while. My father earned well to keep our lifestyle for the time and thus it wasn't really necessary for my mother to work. She had the choice. My wife and I both have jobs. She however doesn't want to work if and when we do decide to have kids. However she'd like to work for my business at the time from home so I suppose it's a bit of both. I am fortunate I guess. But at the moment we both do need our jobs to support our respective lifestyles. Odd to think that my father became a dad at my age and I won't until much later. P.S. I know this isn't poltical and I hope I've not offended anyone. Normally this topic weirds people out especially here and so I avoid talking about it. Also the housemaids who lived with us were mostly like big sisters to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1136834--mitt-romney-couldn-t-have-remembered-detroit-milestone-he-wasn-t-born Why can't I have a DeLorean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he honestly believed he remembers it. It's really easy for kids to incorporate stories they've heard into their memories and later think they really happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I have no problem with anyone dedicating their lives to their family and becoming, for lack of a better word, a homemaker. Former homemakers wishing to enter the labor force face significant hurdles, however. It's not like there's a job waiting for them. There are options, of course, but the sort of fantasy thinking that someone needs only to look for a job and find one always blows my mind. Several women in my family found the barriers to entering the job market to be too high; they could take low-wage jobs like cashier, but their husbands made enough that the extra income would be a drop in the bucket and not worth it. It's very difficult to get a professional job after decades of being a homemaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Nothing wrong with being a stay-at-home-parent/homemaker I think. People should do a balance of what make sense for them and what they want to do. Kids from 0-5 and beyond will take a ton of time to take care of and in situations, you won't find a grandparent (Daycare is expensive and finding a good one might be hard) to take care of the kids like I was while my parents worked and stuff. A ton of Chinese families I've been around, like mines, had grandparents taking care of kids. Now I believe that once the kid(s) goes to any school besides homeschool, the SAHP/homemaker should probably get a part time, odd job. Nothing long at all, just something to fill any downtime between homemaking and leisure and to make some pocket money. If you look, you for sure can find some jobs that can fit in a schedule like that. It doesn't have to be like housekeeping either, it could be like courier work which I worked as. FYI, I can see courier work as something a person can do part time and still net money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 My grandmother took care of me, my siblings, and my cousins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Obama has released his birth video. edit: apparently this is pretty old. Ah well. For those that haven't seen it, here it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battra92 Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 http://www.thestar.c...-he-wasn-t-born Why can't I have a DeLorean? Obama claimed his parents met for the first time at the march on Selma (when young Barry was already 4 years old) and Hillary Clinton claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. Politicians lie. I'm not sticking up for Romney here but pointing out that there are others just as guilty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 there's the other famous hilary clinton one: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 That's less excusable than Romney's because she wasn't talking about something she vaguely remembered from being a small child, so she doesn't have the "kids are retarded" excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) there's the other famous hilary clinton one: How did I miss that 4 years ago? That's gold. Edit: Also, isn't it pretty well documented how faulty human memory is? Lots of cases of eye witness testimony being wrong in trial law and the whole "remember where you were when you heard JFK was shot" instances of people remembering things totally wrong. You don't have to be lying to have a bad memory. Edited February 28, 2012 by Yantelope V2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 While human memory is one thing, mob memory is terrible. If a person is told that there was another eyewitness to an event and their brains figure there's something missing they will take what someone else in the group said (if it can be perceived as sensible (not logical) to them) and attach it to their memories. Any murder, assassination, accident that has had multiple witnesses will face this problem. Human memory though or rather an individual memory depends on the nature of the individual, their personality and other factors. e.g.Sometimes there are people who believe in what they saw so much that they will refuse to accept any other testimony regardless of the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/u-announces-diplomatic-breakthrough-north-korea-152331635.html Seeks North Korea n US are having a crack at getting along following Jong-Il's death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battra92 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I think Kim Jong Un is just hungry for some hot wings or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Chris Christie is a moron. Chris Christie is the same asshole that veto'd the gay marriage bill in New Jersey. Chris Christie will probably die from stuffing his gullet with Chik Fil A. We get it; you're a one issue voter. So what's this whole thing about stopping hate. You sure seem to hate on overweight people. Have fun with your hate. I think Kim Jong Un is just hungry for some hot wings or something. And the difference between Chris Christie at Chick-fil-a and Kim Jong-Un with hot wings is? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 It's okay to make fun of people as long as they are communists. I thought everyone knew that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 The favored response to someone disagreeing with you about something subjective (like how good a movie or something is) among my group of friends in high school was "Are you a communist?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battra92 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Chris Christie is a moron. Chris Christie is the same asshole that veto'd the gay marriage bill in New Jersey. Chris Christie will probably die from stuffing his gullet with Chik Fil A. We get it; you're a one issue voter. So what's this whole thing about stopping hate. You sure seem to hate on overweight people. Have fun with your hate. I think Kim Jong Un is just hungry for some hot wings or something. And the difference between Chris Christie at Chick-fil-a and Kim Jong-Un with hot wings is? North Korea is essentially open for a food for no-nukes deal. Chris Christie had nothing to do with food. Besides, it's a basic assumption that food aid sent to any third world country ends up in the hands of its elite and never sees the common people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4: Gritty Reboot Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Interesting, didn't see this over the last couple pages here: http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2012/02/28/ndaa-nullification-passes-virginia-senate-by-a-veto-proof-39-1-vote/ That controversial detainment clause in this year's NDAA caused the state of Virginia to pass a nullification, meaning they will refuse to assist or cooperate with federal government demands to detain citizens under the act. The nullification passed 39-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted March 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 The jig is up, Hank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 http://news.yahoo.com/people-arent-smart-enough-democracy-flourish-scientists-185601411.html So psychologists have basically pointed out that people are too stupid for democracy to work because they wouldn't recognise a good candidate with good ideas if it slapped them in the face. aka "very smart ideas are going to be hard for people to adopt, because most people don’t have the sophistication to recognize how good an idea is," Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battra92 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 http://news.yahoo.co...-185601411.html So psychologists have basically pointed out that people are too stupid for democracy to work because they wouldn't recognise a good candidate with good ideas if it slapped them in the face. aka "very smart ideas are going to be hard for people to adopt, because most people don’t have the sophistication to recognize how good an idea is," This argument has been made dozens if not hundreds of times before. This line of argument has been used any time a dictator has come into power and even, to a different degree, by big government bureaucrats. "You don't know what's best for you. You don't know to take care of yourself. Let us, the elite class make decisions for you." Democracy doesn't work for an entirely different reason. It means that 50.1% tell the other 49.9% what to do. It's tyranny of the majority. Republics are far greater as they are a nation of laws and not of men. Limits must be placed to limit the power of one individual over another (see Federalist 51 - James Madison.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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