TheRevanchist Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 My best bud's stepdad was exposed to Agent Orange (was sprayed while in the jungles). His body was riddled with cancer for years before he died, but he didn't place the blame on the US government. He placed blame on Dow, one of the chemical companies who made the product under direction from the US government. That is why I find it amusing that Dow is one of the companies that has been contracted to do the cleanup. "A lawsuit brought by a group of Vietnamese nationals against US manufacturers was dismissed in 2007." This lawsuit was against 30+ companies that were involved with Agent Orange in some way, Dow being the biggest contributor. Now, Dow has on their website: http://www.dow.com/sustainability/debates/agentorange/ Please notice the part where it says, "The very substantial body of human evidence on Agent Orange establishes that veterans’ illnesses are not caused by Agent Orange." Yes, Agent Orange did nothing, people. Nothing to see here. Let's move on. If it really did nothing, then why be involved in cleaning up the mess? /end rant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 My dad is dying from the long term effects of Agent Orange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Sorry to hear that, Mister Jack. My sympathies for what your father is going through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) So basically, Fuck Dow and their bullshit studies with a rusty, jagged pipe. Edited August 10, 2012 by Mister Jack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted August 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Paul Ryan is Romney's VP pick. This is the same Paul Ryan who tried to foolishly privatize social security in the 2000's. He also claims that "Ayn Rand taught me my values systems and my beliefs," which would be frightening to any Republican that knows Rand once said "Faith in God is a sign of moral weakness." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Well at least it isn't Sarah Palin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madbassman39 Posted August 11, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Well at least it isn't Sarah Palin. That should be their campaign slogan. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheRevanchist Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 I was listening to Ryan speak this morning. I kept thinking to myself: He has way too many opinions for a VP. In addition, his opinions weren't necessarily what the working class want to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Apologies if this has been posted: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/todd-akin-legitimate-rape.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 What the fuck kind of stupid, dumb-assed, flying spaghetti monster tooth fairy pixie easter bunny bullshit is that? Leave the science to the scientists, DICKHEAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Oh my god. There needs to be an intelligence test before you're allowed to run for office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 The Republican party has now pulled this guys funding. He no longer has the support of a lot of people. I'm sure he's going to give up his run for Senate. The best quote I've seen so far on this: "The phrase "legitimate rape" rapes the word rape." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Lord knows I'm not the biggest fan of the Republican party but I'm glad to see that they had enough sense to drop this guy like a flaming turd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 They've only dropped him because it's playing badly in the media though and it's clear that a lot of republicans think his way even if they're not dumb enough to air their opinion so bluntly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Last I heard he was refusing to give up the Senate race. This could turn interesting... And yes, TFG is correct, Akin is far from the only Republican that thinks this. Hell, Paul Ryan tried to get rape redefined years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 To quote Obama: "Rape is rape" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 To play devil's advocate here, I took what he said to mean "actual rape" as in "if you're not lying", rather than any distinction between certain rapes being "real" rapes and others not. That said, obviously the stuff about women not being able to get pregnant from rape is complete bullshit. But I didn't think the "legitimate rape" phrasing was anything worse than a poor choice of words that has been distorted by his opponents. I count myself among his opponents, but I still think that that particular choice of words is a stupid thing to be focusing on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 You think so? Because to me it sounded like "Rape victims who get pregnant subconsciously wanted to be raped because otherwise their bodies would magically prevent pregnancy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Yeah in context "legitimate rape" doesn't sound how you've interpreted it. Oh btw this has hit our news too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 To me it sounded like "Supposed rape victims who get pregnant must be lying because you can't get pregnant if you're raped." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Either way it's fucking horrible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) I can see what Ethan's saying. The guy's an idiot (just to clarify: the senator, not Ethan...) , but I can understand what he may have been trying to get across. If you want the original exchange to judge for yourself: "OK, so if an abortion could be considered in the case of, say, a tubal pregnancy or something like that. What about in the case of rape? Should it be legal or not?" "Well, you know, people always wanna try and make that as one of those things, "Well, how do ya...slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question?" It seems to me, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, that's really rare. If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." Edited August 21, 2012 by Hot Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Who are these doctors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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