TheFlyingGerbil Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 I know the conversation has moved on from DoP's CNN article, but which news in America is most unbiased/has least editorialising of stories? Are newspapers better or worse in this respect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 That's not how politics works in America; you just rip on the other side, don't bother actually praising your own. Part of that might be because with only two really viable (ie electable) options if you're told not to vote for one it's pretty clearly implied that you should vote for the other instead. Maybe so, and I am of course being tongue in cheek, but you could at least mention the other guys name. If we hold to the adage there is no such thing as bad publicity, then Obama gets a mention in this ad, and is called out as a winner. The other guy doesn't even get a name. Surely there are more than two options on the ballot paper? It doesn't have: [ ] Obama [ ] Not Obama There must be a few: [ ] Neither Obama nor Not Obama. In this case, it's pretty proven that people will just go with what they recognise over a sea of what they don't. Even if they know not to vote for Obama, then the other guy's votes will be spread amongst all the people who are not Obama, which only serves to guarantee Obama's success. Maybe Chuck is a closet Democrat and this is a brilliant piece of subversive marketing that will totally redeem his asinine homophobia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Oh yeah, I totally agree with you. When I was at college our dorm TV was through satellite, and for some reason our "local" broadcast channels were the New York City affiliates, so during campaign season we got to see lots of ads for local NYC offices. There was one race in particular where Guy A ran positive ads about himself and Guy B only ran negative ads about Guy A, never his own positive ads, so we went through the whole season only ever even hearing Guy A's name. I honestly don't think we ever heard Guy B's name even once. Come election time, who do you think we're going to vote for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted September 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Ummm, not being funny, but did Chuck actually say who I'm supposed to vote for? I mean I'm not American and all that but, it's obvious who they think I (or rather American voters) shouldn't vote for, but really they should have said something about voting FOR someone shouldn't they? It's just common sense. Well, in 2008 Chuck released a similar video saying that if Romney got elected, he would "buy the White House". Oddly enough, he hasn't repeated that same accusation this election season... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted September 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 I know the conversation has moved on from DoP's CNN article, but which news in America is most unbiased/has least editorialising of stories? Are newspapers better or worse in this respect? There is no one source you can trust in. The only way to truly get a reliable base of knowledge is reading the same stories from multiple sources. That being said, even though it's a British paper, I've been reading more and more of The Guardian lately. They cover American politics/issues well, and when I compare their stories to other stories, they usually don't seem to leave or twist details in a substantial way. EDIT: http://www.smirkingc...ass-got-shafted Interesting interview. EDIT 2: That was a very unfortunate URL shortening job, forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 I thought it was pretty great URL shortening. I've found that two of the best sources for anything contentious are the BBC and (ironically) the Christian Science Monitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 No Al-Jazeera fans? It's so unbiased it's boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) Oh yeah, I totally agree with you. When I was at college our dorm TV was through satellite, and for some reason our "local" broadcast channels were the New York City affiliates, so during campaign season we got to see lots of ads for local NYC offices. There was one race in particular where Guy A ran positive ads about himself and Guy B only ran negative ads about Guy A, never his own positive ads, so we went through the whole season only ever even hearing Guy A's name. I honestly don't think we ever heard Guy B's name even once. Come election time, who do you think we're going to vote for? Possible, but negative ads have become popular practically for a defensive purpose. Think of it as: Guy A: I'm not a liar. Guy B: He's a liar. If "A" is always talking about himself and his positive attributes, those same qualities can be tarnished by "B" creating doubt to the public. Everything "A" was building up for himself can be perceived as falsehoods and that he's merely talking about himself because he's trying to deny what "B" is constantly asserting. So then it becomes similar to a sibling feud. Hey, you know what he has done, America? Sure, he says this, but I know that he will do this because etc, etc. To the best of my knowledge, there are rarely few purely postive campaign ads. Either they're strictly negative or have this mix of "A sucks, but B is good." Anything wholly postive could be when candidates are preaching to the choir, but even then said candidate can always add a little jab to their opponent. Edited September 5, 2012 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 No Al-Jazeera fans? It's so unbiased it's boring. I read there, at times. The different perspective is interesting, and you really do get to see more of the ramifications of sanctions affect countries, like Iran. Plus, you have to know both sides of a story to really know what is happening anyway. So, reading Al-Jazeera is worth the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Ahaahahahaha">Went to Mcdonalds>bought medium fries>given far too much money backthat's not the change i voted for.." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Pretty much my mother's response to last night's speech by Clinton: "That's slick Willy for ya, always with the smooth talk" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 They didn't learn a fucking thing from Rick Perry's mistake, did they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 I believe that marriage is a sacred bond between M men and N women, where M and N are non-negative integers. @Jack: What was Rick Perry's mistake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 That terrible YouTube video he did a while back. It pretty much cost him any chance of getting the nomination. On another note, gay marriage is being forced on the country? Are we having incidents where a bunch of gays show up in festive SWAT vans and break into people's houses to hold a wedding at gunpoint? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/06/mitt-romney-tax-return-theft_n_1863009.html If this is a hoax, it's a pretty bad one. If it's not, Romney probably has a lot to worry about right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 My gods, people really are desperate to make bitcoin look like a viable currency aren't they! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 My gods, people really are desperate to make bitcoin look like a viable currency aren't they! Haha, my thought process, too. Not sure they can do anything to not make it sound absolutely ridiculous. I smirk at the thought of a kidnapper saying "Pay us in bitcoins." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Meanwhile, Larry Flynt has offered the same amount in actual cash money for the tax returns. He didn't offer it to anyone in particular, just put it out as a bounty. So far no takers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/12/833301/romney-obama-sympathize-attackers-libya-egypt/ Leave it to Mitt Romney to try and take advantage of a tragedy, spreading misinformation and false accusations. What a classy human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) My gods, people really are desperate to make bitcoin look like a viable currency aren't they! Techno-libertarians have a lot invested in the scheme. It's hilarious that the value of the bitcoin is propped up by a strange marriage of extreme libertarians seeking an alternative to the gold standard to the forces of the black market. Then again, I *do* buy all my LSD, cocaine and assault rifles with bitcoins, so I shouldn't complain. Duke: You are absolutely incorrect. Mitt Romney is and never has been a human being. Edited September 12, 2012 by Mr. GOH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deanb Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk...canada-19631430 A tape has been leaked of Romney speaking at a secret donor drive. "There are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. " Way to go n piss on a rather large chunk of voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I was wondering when this was going to be brought up. I would have posted it myself but I didn't want to double post again so soon. But yeah, the last week or so has just been a complete disaster for Romney, most of it his own fault. There are people who say it's still to early to declare the race over, and maybe they're right, but it would take nothing short of a miracle combined with a youtube video of Obama punching a blind kid for Romney to pull himself out of the hole he's dug himself into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 This whole race seems kind of like the Bush/Kerry race, but with the party positions reversed. You have a not-super-popular sitting president who's doing well because the other candidate simply cannot get his shit together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted September 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Part 2 of the leaked Mother Jones video: Mitt Romney thinks a resolution to the Israeli/Palestinian is hopeless (a former secretary of state even said he knew a solution but Mitt didn't bother asking what the solution was), and he apparently isn't aware of what a dirty bomb is or how it works. http://www.motherjon...ddle-east-peace The dude's completely clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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