TheFlyingGerbil Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) i can't pretend I know much about it, but wasn't that a non binding referendum, and the new leader of puerto rico doesn't want to become a state, so isn't there quite a big chance that it won't go ahead? Edit, or at least be deliberately held up and made a mess of. Edited November 8, 2012 by TheFlyingGerbil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) I tried to stay off Facebook because, with a political mix of friends, I knew it was going to be a battleground. Surprisingly wasn't too bad for me. Only had one guy kinda go crazy, but he's also from Florida, and as we've discussed they can get a lil' cray-cray down there. Otherwise most Romney supporter friends of mine were disappointed, but again only had about two or three that were what I call "maximum piss-crazy." I think in the majority most of my feed was of people trying to calm down Democrats and Republicans. Those who where butthurt and others who might as well have been humping their keyboard. Kinda was tempted to call out a Democrat friend of mine because he was acting like Romney "ran a good campaign, and should be proud" but for the last two months half his feed was raving anti-Romney articles and quotes. You don't really expect people to believe you've gone from overdrive into a nice casual crawl. Edited November 8, 2012 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) Romney most certainly did NOT run a good campaign. That's why he friggin lost. He ran one of the worst campaigns I've ever seen. The far right Republicans, the Tea Party in general, didn't seem to grasp that they couldn't just rely on the straight white male vote to win. They did almost NOTHING to reach out to women and minorities. I forget who exactly said it, but I remember hearing one republican insider lament "Our party is too old, too rich, and too white." That's exactly it. If they want to have any hope of winning in 2016, they have got to stop pissing off gays, women, and latinos all the time. They'll have to start trying to appeal to at least ONE of those groups. Edited November 8, 2012 by Mister Jack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 The only thing I'm "pissed" about is simply voting in this country. It was talked about earlier in the day, but a few news stations brought up how ass backwards it is to eventually bring your coverage down to 10 battleground states. Like, we've seen how the last few elections have gone so just count up all the red and blue states and make it all about Ohio, Virgina, and Florida. Then we have "projections" and even if I was an avid Obama support, having 63% counted and declaring Obama to have won Ohio (which he did eventually, but still) comes off like jumping the gun. Heck, while the Electoral College says Obama won by over 100 points, the difference in Popular Vote is by nearly 3 million. It's a 50-48 divide which shows that voter mentality was near even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 The reason they declared Ohio for Obama at 63% is because going by the districts, the more densely populated areas of Ohio (that were still being counted) had Obama leading about 2 to 1 over Romney at the time, and those areas were historically seen as more liberal anyway, so there was reason to believe it would turn out the way it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Even with all the analysis, going by such a percentage felt off, but that's probably me as I'm not familiar with Ohio's counties. I kept hearing it could go either way, and it was really close with a difference of 2% in votes (at least from what I can find). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 I'll put it like this: maybe it might have been a bit premature to call Ohio for Obama when they did, but it wasn't baseless either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 In regards to the PR thing. As of right now, they have no say in US politics while ultimately under control by Washington. If they become a state, they could have some say. If they become an independent country, they'll be quite poor and who knows, they might become another Haiti (a position they don't want to be in). In any case, I feel like they have more say in their own destiny than we do. I'm honestly quite jealous. Part of the reason Atomsk brought up: The only thing I'm "pissed" about is simply voting in this country. It was talked about earlier in the day, but a few news stations brought up how ass backwards it is to eventually bring your coverage down to 10 battleground states. Like, we've seen how the last few elections have gone so just count up all the red and blue states and make it all about Ohio, Virgina, and Florida. The electoral college is for sure shit. I sure would love for the whole election process to be changed before we tear ourselves apart by stuff like: Good luck trying to run with that stance. So yup. Dysfunctional union. Puerto Rico, seriously, stay the hell away. If we crash and burn, you won't burn with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 http://www.iheartchaos.com/post/35240949700/maines-level-68-orc-rogue-wins-her-seat-in-the-state Cool win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 US Presidential Elections 101 (page gag! HAHA! ) Get two men. Get them to talk about the red or blue manifesto. Make it sound like it was all their idea. Let the public vote. That's a gross oversimplification of the whole process but this election, I thought it appeared really obvious that people weren't voting for Obama or Romney, they were just faces on the Republican and Democrat ideals. To be honest, I found it sort of disconcerting. I never liked the idea of 'Party Politics', let alone the two party system of the US but after this election, I find it fearsome. The idea that people are fooled (I know not everyone is) into believing they're voting on the ideals of a single man when in reality they're voting on the entrenched ideals of a party is rather disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 I like how that guy in the video says "Over the last 4 years the conservative movement has grown stronger." Yes, that's why the Republicans lost seats in both houses, especially Tea Party seats, and also failed to take the Presidency... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) Now that the election is over, I can say things to people without expecting such emotionally-charged responses. Hooray. I don't see how people think voting for a president, a person who'll lead one of the most powerful nations on the planet, based on personal social issues that don't necessarily reflect the person's ability to lead at all is a good idea. Edited November 8, 2012 by Saturnine Tenshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2012/10/02/162163801/obama-s-secret-weapon-in-the-south-small-dead-but-still-kickin Pretty neat article to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 http://youtu.be/SVwXA7sHUlE ...in this country we have a two party system, in government. And the idea is supposed to be that the two sides both come up with ways to confront and fix the real problems facing our country. They both propose possible solutions to our real problems. And we debate between those possible solutions. And by the process of debate, we pick the best idea. That competition between good ideas, from both sides, about real problems in the real country should result in our country having better choices, better options, than if only one side is really working on the hard stuff. And if the Republican party, and the conservative movement, and the conservative media is stuck in a vacuum sealed, door locked, spin cycle of telling each other what makes them feel good, and denying the factual, lived truth of the world, then we are all deprived, as a nation, of the constructive debate between competing, feasible ideas about real problems. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 When I look at the election results and see that Florida still isn't decided yet, just like every other year, it makes me realize something: I'm glad their bullshit doesn't matter for once. Also, with the possible exception of Florida, Romney pretty handily won the Confederacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 A Confederacy of Dunces! Ha, zing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 White People Mourning Romney 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Man, I love how people are acting like this is literally "The Death of America." How small minded and petty can you possibly get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Remember, people are stupid with some being downright retarded. While I don't like the electoral college, the reasoning behind it is kind of sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 Man, I love how people are acting like this is literally "The Death of America." How small minded and petty can you possibly get? This was going to happen no matter which side, and it will happen after every election on matter which side. We can't say we're dying until we're actually dead as a first world power in my opinion, but people tend to look for doomsday scenarios when there's a hiccup in their ideal world order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 I would have been disappointed if Obama had lost, but I would not have thought it was the end of the world. If anything I probably would have had a sentiment similar to the one reasonable person on that site who said something like "Just 4 more years, we can get through this." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 http://www.gq.com/news-politics/blogs/death-race/2012/11/how-the-secret-service-said-goodbye-to-mitt-romney.html An article on the Secret Service Romney had (then suddenly didn't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-louisiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/1wrvtngl HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 I've seen several petitions recently of people asking banks to stop trying to collect student loans from the parents (who cosigned the loan) of the student after the student has died. Like, I get that that's a terrible thing to happen to a parent, losing their child, but what did you think the point of cosigning a loan was? It's so that if the principal person can't pay it back then they collect from the cosigner. It sucks for you, but that's what you agreed to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 That is true, but I do think banks should allow a reasonable period of time for grieving before they start trying to collect. I've heard some pretty nasty stories about banks jumping down those poor parents' throats practically while the body is still warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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