Vecha Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'm worried when the end of the world comes, I'll have little to offer. I can read, write, and teach.And I have a near broken back.I'm fucked.Radiated Zombies don't care for no grammar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'm gonna start my own country and call it Dry Atlantis As long as that's not referring to alcohol I'm in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I should of gotten my Mossberg 500 over the summer... with that said, I'm guessing people are genuinely nervous. Close enough. We need a Link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 There we go, added in a new poll, though you'll need to re-vote in the first (I could just remove that I guess..but meh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I did, which broke the poll, but it seems to be working again now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Oh, I kinda wanted to keep it for posterity, at least til next election, but TTFN I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Oh, sorry. I'd already been thinking for a while that we should remove it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I think lots of people have been thinking about removing the vote at next election. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 We could do like Azerbaijan and just announce the winner ahead of time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 So I just tweaked my vote. I don't think they'll do it on purpose, and they might end up fixing it like on the first day, but at this stage I'm not thinking they'll reach an agreement in time. Also unless you guys can vote folks out mid way through, given that it's currently said to be raised until February should it all pass, I think it'll happen all over again now a small faction of republicans have realised they can quite severely rock the boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Keep doing it and they'll see what will happen in November 2014. If any of the Republicans are in the swing states or districts and they voted for this, they might be in a world of hurt. Hell, even the ones that voted against the shutdown are going to get burned by association. Which is sad and kind of scary since it seems those who voted against it are, from what I've read, being demonized/shunned by the party. The Republican party (Or the more radical elements) could potentially have Tea Party affiliates lined up to take the dissenters spots. No bueno. Honestly, when the Tea Party first came on scene, I was sort of okay with them. Then their faces start to twitch and I got worried. Now I see them as insanely toxic. Take home message: Radical not even once. Hopefully once Obama term out, we can get rid of the filth that is the Tea Party. They're destabilizing the already somewhat unsteady political system. As a person who likes balance (Even if I don't agree with certain policies, it should be free to evolve and adapt with our changing country so we won't be too liberal or too conservative), they're terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 What I don't get is there are moderate Republicans in the House, and there are enough of them that, with the Democrats, they could pass a bill. The Tea Party is the majority of the Republican party, but it is not the majority of the House as a whole. I mean, I do get it, it's suicidal stubbornness, but I don't really get that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 If what I'm reading is correct, the Tea Party doesn't represent a majority of Republicans. The source on the Tea Party website has since been removed, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Yeah I'd heard of them being a minority, but due to the way the states lie and other factors like being quite close knit they're quite a powerful minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Yeah, I incorrectly lumped all the Republicans opposing a debt ceiling increase in with the Tea Party. That aside, everything I've read says Boehner's got a couple of dozen Republican moderates who would vote for an increase along with the Democrats, and that coalition together is enough for a majority. That actually now looks like that's what they're going to do, they just waited until the day before to decide to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 part of it is that TP Republicans right at Oct 1 made a rule change that the only one who could bring a CR to vote was the Majority Leader or his designatee, meaning Cantor has to clear whatever was being offered first. Previously any member could offer up a proposal. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/13/house-republicans-rules-change_n_4095129.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Looks like they finally came up with a "deal." I use quotes because the republicans get pretty much nothing, just a provision to Obamacare that mandates people applying for subsidies verify their income, which was already part of the law in the first place. GOOD, I say. Fuck them. I don't like Obama much lately, but he is 100% right when he says that if he caved to the GOP on this, they would just keep doing it every time the ceiling needs to be raised. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/republicans-shut-down-the-government-for-nothing/280611/ Edited October 16, 2013 by Mister Jack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Great. Now I can get back to hating on California politics. But, before I go, I'd like to give a shout out to the Tea Party for being a bunch of jerks through this ordeal. Another shout out to the Republicans who allowed the Tea Party in the game and gave them the slightest bit of power. And one last shout out to the Democrats who spend money like the country isn't already in debt. A big 'fuck you' to all! I'm going to do some old man grumbles then eat some damn prunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 This will so bite them in the ass in 2014. Heavens forbid that any of the future Republican presidential candidates when with this in 2016. Nobody is going to forget this. Especially the campaigners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I hope so. It already looks like Virginia is going to have a Democratic governor (election is this November). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 So basically Obama called their bluff and the Republicans backed down. Good. This whole Obamacare wasn't worth fucking up the nation for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Remember these faces. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/32-republicans-who-caused-the-government-shutdown/280236/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/google_engineers_say_fuck_you_to_the_nsa_encrypt_stolen_data_20131106?ln When a large corporation like Google allows it's employees to use such language, you know that everyone in the company, from the unpaid intern to the CEO, is pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Who said Google is allowing it? https://plus.google.com/108799184931623330498/posts/SfYy8xbDWGG I'm just going to post my thoughts on this. Standard disclaimer: They are my own thoughts, and not those of my employer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Senate Democrats finally got sick enough of Republican obstruction of presidential nominees that they changed the senate rules so it now only takes 51 votes to end a nominee filibuster instead of 60. (A rule change always only required 51 votes.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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