CorgiShinobi Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 On 7/2/2013 at 4:41 AM, Mister Jack said: Well when you think about it, how many bandit groups in the apocalypse would you expect to be very concerned with equal treatment for women? Which is why I'm singling out the military groups. There's dialogue a plenty to show that Hunter groups are prone to enslave, rape, and/or murder women. As for the military (and Fireflies), we have evidence that female soldiers exist, but we don't actually fight any. Don't forget that orphanages were military academies too, and with little remaining quarantine zones, I wouldn't think soldiers would be picky as to who puts on armor and handles a rifle. We have plenty of strong female survivors. Not only Tess and Marlene, but... Reveal hidden contents Tommy's wife was pretty much someone of "top rank" in the New Jacksonville community. It's apparent to me that after 20 years, there are many women who can handle fighting. Thing is, we don't find ourselves fighting them. I guess you could say it exists on the "friendlies" side, but the Fireflies are also the type of group to not be picky. Considering what we did after rescuing Ellie, the Fireflies are out of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Well, answer number 2 then: Naughty Dog doesn't want the player to kill 200 human females in the gruesome way that you usually do cus that tends to make people uncomfortable. And whether they meant to or not, it makes the women that die in the game feel more significant. Im not sure why we just dilly dally when the answer is obvious. It has nothing to do with the story. Im just trying to create some fiction around it for fun, otherwise...yeah. Easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 On 7/2/2013 at 1:07 AM, Atomsk88 said: I honestly have no idea other than Firefly/Fireflies is a cool name with a ring to it in their motto; the "look for the light," or whatever. As for the plot... Reveal hidden contents convenience, it's not really brought up until David where he shares the philosophy that eveything happens for a reason. It's not very apparent, but the men he refers to are the ones you take down at Eastern Colorado University. I thought at first it was something that happened offscreen, but then I realized that 1) Joel wasn't in any condition to kill anyone after ECU, and 2) Ellie couldn't have gone too far and I believe Whitefish Lakeside Resort is located in lower Montana. Ellie disagreed with David, but at the same time, it instilled a great sense of shock and fear once you learn the group you escaped from is right at your heels again. Oh, no, I got all that. I didn't mean it as a negative. I just meant that it might be wrong to attribute meaning to something that was more about convenience than anything deeper. But the way it's presented suggests it has some significance, perhaps in how it goes from a sort of negative meaning to a positive one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 SPOILERS: http://www.clickonline.com/games/uncut-interview--ricky-cambier-(the-last-of-us)/18520/ Reveal hidden contents 'like in the quarantine zone you’re walking past some of the guards and you push them. They’ll shove you down and they’ll tell you if you do that again they’re going to shoot you. And if you do it again, they’ll shove you down and kill you.' Yep, that was me! CLICK: For me the real turning point was when Joel was forced to kill the doctors – that was the point that really pushed me over the edge I think! Did you always want to do to that very bleak place?RC: Did you kill all three of them?CLICK: I did, did you not have to?!RC: No! Hehe. I only shot one of them...and the first bullet went through him, presumably because I shot him too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Like I had said before, I really didn't... Reveal hidden contents want to kill any of the doctors, so I didn't fire my gun. Honestly, I pick the worst option because stabbing the guy in the neck is intense. Joel doesn't really do it quick and dirty; he'll force it in and lunge downward so the guy falls right in front of him. As the guy is down on the ground, you hear the gurgling of the doctor's voice and his eventual demise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Really nice to see the creators addressing the criticisms and such here. KOTAKU WARNING: http://kotaku.com/zombies-women-citizen-kane-the-last-of-us-makers-de-679053634 Some of the feminist critique raised interesting points but really missed some glaringly obvious stuff. The 'women in the refrigerator' thing isn't about a revenge tale, plus if Ellie's character is female then Sarah has to be as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 http://www.hejibits.com/comics/fiery-fumble/ I'm to understand this is a thing (obviously not the end part, but the whole "let's put that back in my pack" part) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 As long as he isn't complaining as much as making a joke, which he/she seems to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 The comic before it is also another TloU comic as well. Which highlights another issue I've heard the game can have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 That's not really an issue. It'd be an issue if Ellie made a noise and got her or Joel killed, which would cause the last checkpoint to reload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredEffinChopin Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Yeah, it was a little distracting at times. In particular in the school, where I was stuck for way too long, and the first minute involved me sneaking to the same spot over and over, and Bill rushing after me and running face-first into the same clicker every time before moseying around him. Without getting into any detailed opinions of things unfolding, I'll just say that I think TLoU is one of the finest achievements ever to come out of the medium, in my humble opinion. I was totally unprepared for the ride I was taken on. II expected a quality game, but this handily exceeded any expectations I was entertaining. Standing O for Naughty Dog. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Personally, I think if you're good at stealth, AI partner "scrambling" won't pop up a lot. I still got it a few times because some areas there isn't always a lot of cover for your partners close by you, so they'll run out in the open to then get beside you with your cover. This happened to me in the subway terminal with Tess where you have to take out the Clicker beside the exit. Ellie was right behind me, but Tess ran out, ran right beside the Clicker and came back to the cover I was behind. Still beats the alternative of AI partners ruining your stealth. My stats show that I had partners die four times, but I know that's probably a glitch from restarting an encounter. Kinda like my random death I mentioned earlier in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Have you guys seen this link yet? It's a look at who was supposed to be the villain as opposed to someone who I won't name for those of you who have not played the game yet. It's an interesting read, and those of us who have played the game might find it interesting: http://www.latestnewsexplorer.com/the-last-of-us-original-story-alternate-villain-revealed/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Yup. They also said so in the art book that came with the Survival Edition. It sounds cool, but it wouldnt have worked. Its not like switching out 2 characters or keeping remotely the same story, the whole thing would be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 It definitely would not have worked. In the world of The Last of Us, no matter the amount of your hatred and/or villainy, you're not going to go chasing after a guy across the country. Once out of your territory, forget it. The only time something ends up reoccurring is by chance/fate, i.e. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 I doubt anything will be announced today, but id love to be wrong. At least, something cool, not something stupid or silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 There is the announced single player DLC which could be given a trailer and/or previews any day now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Joel imagines himself in a better place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 I'm in Winter and Reveal hidden contents I'm kind of disappointed that this group that said I killed all their gatherers turns out to be evil. I liked it better when it was just people looking for food that we slaughtered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 On 10/20/2013 at 2:25 PM, TheMightyEthan said: I'm in Winter and Reveal hidden contents I'm kind of disappointed that this group that said I killed all their gatherers turns out to be evil. I liked it better when it was just people looking for food that we slaughtered. Reveal hidden contents I don't particualrly remember them being evil. The leader was a little crazy but IIRC you also can hear dialogue of people not trusting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Reveal hidden contents I could be wrong, but the only implication I got of people not trusting the leader was "the leader says to keep this girl alive, but screw him she killed tons of my friends and I'm not letting her get away with it." The evil was in that they would apparent capture/kill people to butcher and eat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Reveal hidden contents Don't they mention that he (David, creepily voiced by Nolan North) keeps children as his 'pets' as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Reveal hidden contents Yeah, that could just be him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hot Heart Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Development documentary. Spoilers, obviously. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/211657/Last_Of_Us_development_documentary_is_now_free_on_YouTube.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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