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[Pheermee]

It is only Bourbon if it is made it is made in Kentucky! And you haven't had Bourbon until you have come here. We don't send out the good stuff. We even have laws that made it illegal to mail it or carry it over state lines unless you have a very special permit.

[diedan]

It is only Bourbon if it is made it is made in Kentucky! And you haven't had Bourbon until you have come here. We don't send out the good stuff. We even have laws that made it illegal to mail it or carry it over state lines unless you have a very special permit.

Legally, that's not true. Basically it needs to be made of 51% corn, not distilled beyond 80% ABV, and then there are a bunch of other restrictions regarding alcohol content the barrels it's aged in, etc. It also has to be made in the US.

 

I won't argue that Kentucky bourbon is best, but your no-state lines laws are likely more to do with distribution than anything else. Technically, in MN, we can't ship or carry any alcoholic beverages across state lines (even though everyone does anyway).

 

Sorry. I'm such a downer when it comes to liquor laws. Here's a fun link to read, though!

[Battra92]

in Massachusetts you still can't buy alcohol on Sunday.

 

The laws according to Wikipedia:

No individual, partnership, or corporation may have more than three off-premises licenses in the state, nor more than two in any city, nor more than one in any town. No individual, partnership, or corporation not resident or headquartered in Massachusetts may apply for a license, although one may devolve upon such a corporation.[7]

On-premises regulations: No discounts at specific times (i.e. no "Happy Hour" discounts) or for specific individuals, no fixed-price open bar or all-you-can-drink (except at private functions), no more than two drinks per individual at any one time, no pitchers for fewer than two people, no drinking contests, no drinks as prizes, no free drinks.[8]

Off-premises sale of alcohol is prohibited on the last Monday in May (Memorial Day), Thanksgiving Day, Christmas Day, and the day after Christmas if Christmas falls on a Sunday.[6]

Sale of alcohol is prohibited during polling hours on election days (subject to local exceptions).[6]

"Malt beverages" defined as having not more than 12% alcohol by weight.[9]

[TheMightyEthan]

You can't buy alcohol on a Sunday here either, but that's a county law, not a state law. So if you want alcohol you just have to drive to the next county.

[diedan]

No Sunday sales in MN, nor can you sell anything beyond 3.2% ABW (around 4.1% ABV) in a grocery/convenience store. We also have a host of other restrictions including a barrel per year limit on growler sales, breweries can't own bars unless classified as a brewpub, etc., not to mention all the county to county restrictions.

 

This is a fun Wikipedia page that accurately sums up all of the various restrictions by state.

 

Sorry to drive this thread so far off topic...

[Pheermee]

It is only Bourbon if it is made it is made in Kentucky! And you haven't had Bourbon until you have come here. We don't send out the good stuff. We even have laws that made it illegal to mail it or carry it over state lines unless you have a very special permit.

Legally, that's not true. Basically it needs to be made of 51% corn, not distilled beyond 80% ABV, and then there are a bunch of other restrictions regarding alcohol content the barrels it's aged in, etc. It also has to be made in the US.

 

I won't argue that Kentucky bourbon is best, but your no-state lines laws are likely more to do with distribution than anything else. Technically, in MN, we can't ship or carry any alcoholic beverages across state lines (even though everyone does anyway).

 

Sorry. I'm such a downer when it comes to liquor laws. Here's a fun link to read, though!

 

 

Whoops.. nice try.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourbon_whiskey

 

it may be made in the exact same way but it must be fermented in an oak charred barrel. If it wasn't made it Kentucky it has to be called "Blended Whiskey".

 

Also the Seasons and temperature changes is what gives Kentucky whiskey/Bourbon its unique flavor. You can't get that anywhere else in the world.

[diedan]

"While it may be made anywhere in the United States, it is strongly associated with Kentucky." Third line in. And the article I liked to is the federal law on designations.

 

Edit: I agree that Kentucky bourbon tastes different than other places, but it can still be called bourbon even if it's produced elsewhere.

[Pheermee]

"While it may be made anywhere in the United States, it is strongly associated with Kentucky." Third line in. And the article I liked to is the federal law on designations.

 

Edit: I agree that Kentucky bourbon tastes different than other places, but it can still be called bourbon even if it's produced elsewhere.

 

 

The link you provided only tells what the contents of anything labeled as Bourbon must contain. It says nothing about what may be called Bourbon in regards to origin.

 

http://www.heavenhill.co.nz/prod01_copy%286%2911.htm

[diedan]

"While it may be made anywhere in the United States, it is strongly associated with Kentucky." Third line in. And the article I liked to is the federal law on designations.

 

Edit: I agree that Kentucky bourbon tastes different than other places, but it can still be called bourbon even if it's produced elsewhere.

 

 

The link you provided only tells what the contents of anything labeled as Bourbon must contain. It says nothing about what may be called Bourbon in regards to origin.

 

http://www.heavenhill.co.nz/prod01_copy%286%2911.htm

It just needs to be made in Kentucky to be called Kentucky Bourbon. That's all that website says. Here are some examples of bourbon, named bourbon, made outside of Kentucky:

 

http://www.mccormickdistilling.com/content/products_family.php

http://www.asmithbowman.com/collection.aspx

[slithy toves]

in Massachusetts you still can't buy alcohol on Sunday.

i live in massachusetts and it was my understanding that the law is no longer statewide? i can buy alcohol all over the place in worcester and franklin counties on sundays.

[Pheermee]

Well that has be all confused because According to Heaven Hill

 

 

 

vii) Other Whiskeys

 

a) American Whiskey

 

– Not aged or bottled in Kentucky, or does not meet other Bourbon requirements.

 

B) Kentucky Whiskey

 

– Not aged in new charred oak barrels as Bourbon requires, but is aged in Kentucky, or does not meet other Bourbon requirements.

 

c) Rye Whiskey

 

– Mash containing at least 51% rye grain (Canadian Whiskey is rye based)

 

d) Tennessee Whiskey

 

– Made in Tennessee not Kentucky

 

– Does not use Kentucky limestone water

 

– Different filtration process

 

– Otherwise similar process

 

e) Blends (any)

 

– Bourbon Whiskey blended with non Bourbon Whiskey or spirit, may contain other additives (colour etc.) also.

 

– For example Brands labeled “ Distillery Blend” or similar.

 

 

Prehaps they have a program where they age the barrels in KY and then ship them off.

[diedan]

That's for Kentucky Whiskey, not Kentucky Bourbon. You're quoting under section vii) which is about other whiskeys, i.e., not bourbon. Only i) through vi) are about bourbon.

[Pheermee]

My world is being turned upside down. They even "learned" us that in schools here!

 

Either I have been lied to my whole life or they have recently changed the definition or this is semantics.

[D-K]

I question the integrity of Kentuckian teachers when they're educating children on the specifics involved with the smuggling of alcoholic beverages. I question it very much so.

[Pheermee]

We do have a long and proud history of Alcohol and Bootleggers and Moonshiners. How do you think Nascar got started?

 

Bootleggers souping up their cars to out run the police. Then they would have local gatherings to see who had the fastest car. All grew from that

[diedan]

1964, unfortunately. It gets tricky because there are a lot of different designations: whiskey is the main, then there are different sets, Irish, Scotch, Canadian, American, etc.. Then in America it breaks down into types: bourbon, rye, or whiskey (generic). After that it can be either straight, blended, or regular (so just bourbon whiskey, rye whiskey, or whiskey. Straight is not blended and has to be aged for longer). And you can add a region (I think only Tennessee and Kentucky, technically, but I could be wrong). So perhaps the information was just misleading or convoluted. It's confusing. I've done way, way too much research on this...

 

...anyhow, I'm supposed to be working. And we've used up like a page and a half of off-topic posts...

[deanb]

Even I could of told you US has no regional naming restrictions on food and drink production.(at least on a federal level)

It was the US that put the kibosh on EUs plans to include the regional naming restrictions in ACTA.

(i.e You could only call it Feta cheese if it's made in Feta, Champagne from Champagne, Tika Masala from Scotland. and Bourbon from Bourbon Kentucky)

[Pheermee]

This is what I get for trusting the the Education System around here.

[Mudkip3DS]

(i.e You could only call it Feta cheese if it's made in Feta, Champagne from Champagne, Tika Masala from Scotland. and Bourbon from Bourbon Kentucky)

 

Tika Masala (aka in HINDI: चिकन टिक्का मसाला) is a Scottish food now? lol wut.

[deanb]

Yep. They weren't going to call it 'Chicken in a Spicy Sauce' were they? It was in an Indian restaurant after all.

 

Oh and while it's not in ACTA, the regional naming this is still EU law. So we have a fair bit of 'Cornish-Style Ice Cream' round these parts.

[Battra92]

in Massachusetts you still can't buy alcohol on Sunday.

i live in massachusetts and it was my understanding that the law is no longer statewide? i can buy alcohol all over the place in worcester and franklin counties on sundays.

 

Hmm, over in the Berkshires the liquor stores are all closed. Of course, I don't buy/drink alcohol so I could be mistaken.

[slithy toves]

yeah, i'm pretty sure that law got redacted when i was in my teens. not that i would have a reason to know such a thing or that i ever celebrated not having to try to find a buyer who was willing to go to new hampshire on sundays *cough*. i do think some counties are still dry on sunday, though.

[Battra92]

Western Massachusetts is the biggest paradox in the universe. Never have people been so Liberal to the point of being Communists and yet they can be extremely Conservative at times.

 

Me, I'm a Republican and a Yankee fan so I'm an outcast in Massachusetts living in exile in New York where I'm only half shunned.

[Strangelove]

 

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