FredEffinChopin Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I was just going to bitch about this in my status, but Dean set me on a better path. http://techtroid.co.uk/santa-monica-studio-looking-for-testers-for-new-fps-10792 It's fun to lead excited gamers into the hands of shady-ass craigslist ads that would extract their personal information under false pretenses! I don't know whether to call this gross but unintentional negligence on the part of the writer for not bothering to examine the listing more than peripherally, or call it intentionally negligent for his using the obviously suspect (at best) posting to write a unique (and false) news story that would bring site hits. Either way, this is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to reporting. From reading the article you would think this i straight fact. I find it absolutely disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Can't we just all agree that people are stupid and move on with our lives? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I dont mind people being stupid, but I mind when they get paid for it. Or maybe im just jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Why are you giving that site hits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Polygon Documentary... The closest we have to a documentary is a slide I put together on Gdocs with a "how to publish an article, don't fuck up the image sizes" walkthrough. Good write up by a guy from RPS (yeah he kinda has a dog in the fight, but still) http://botherer.org/2012/08/23/polygon-and-the-documentary-that-cured-cancer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Oh, christ, now I've seen the videos... What a bunch of twats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 btw stuff is going down. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-24-lost-humanity-18-a-table-of-doritos http://botherer.org/2012/10/24/games-journalists-and-the-perception-of-corruption/ http://botherer.org/2012/10/25/an-utter-disgrace/ Worth following the various links. Oh and given the edit of the EG article Robert Florence has also since stepped down as a columns writer for EG. Also adds an addition to the whole affair when you take in mind the events of last years GMAS and the media reaction to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Ben Kuchera throws his word in, too. http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/libel-alleged-legal-threats-and-conflicts-of-interest-the-twisted-story-of- Here's the removed bits of the article: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel_excel Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 I loved the original Eurogamer article. The editing turned out to be a blessing in disguise because now the article and its edits and original piece has more coverage than ever. Its such a shame Florence stepped down....love to hear the story behind that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 By the sounds of it it's a case of "it's not my main job, I'm just not feeling it any more and some of you are going to extreme lengths to prove my point. Sayonara". I think he was pretty exasperated when he wrote the article, MCV/Wainwright reaction just broke the camels back. And yeah the MCV/Wianwright reaction is a classic case of Streisand Effect. Especially since original article mentioned the Tomb Raider twitter thing and now an eye of scrutiny has been brought upon her it turns out she's on Square Enix's freelance payroll(SE publish Tomb Raider). Of course she's listed as working for SE anymore mind. Her reputation is pretty much fucked and she hasn't got a comedy career to fall back on like Florence. Gonna make future gaming events fun to follow. Especially stuff like EG Expo and GMAs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 I read the links, actually I just skimmed over some of it. Or read fast without actually trying to understand it. What I got from it was there were companies asking journalists to tweet about their game in the hopes of a PS3 reward. So they did, and now it made them untrustworthy. I get that I guess. However, what's that about Geoff Keighley and the Doritos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 I don't actually know the origin of the Geoff Keighley and the Doritos, I assume it's from one of his shows he does (we don't get the US game channels over here) Also Totilo weighs in I actually thought it fake, but did some googling and turns out it's really totilo and that's really his response 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc4life Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 To be fair though, I'm kinda glad Kotaku's not weighing in on this, because, Kirk Hamilton maybe aside, I don't think any of their regular staff are really good at "news" news, per se. The above picture's really unwarranted juxtaposition, especially since the article in question hadn't even been posted at that time (Oct 22, when the Halo thing got posted in that screencap), and while I don't hate them as much as I used to, using that particular image to call them out is more than a tad unfair to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 The above picture's really unwarranted juxtaposition, especially since the article in question hadn't even been posted at that time (Oct 22, when the Halo thing got posted in that screencap), and while I don't hate them as much as I used to, using that particular image to call them out is more than a tad unfair to them. I would say it's fair. Totilo says 'this week', and the article is from Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 The image isn't so much the big thing, it's the fact he's dismissed the recent questioning of games journalism ethics/corruption so easily as "tired nonsense". And the fact he wouldn't want to dedicate his "reporters" on the task, while quite happily to have three of them opening up Halo 4 gear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/mcvs-lauren-wainwright-english-libel-law-and-the-gaming-press-why-this-stor PAR have done a bit of an expansion on the topic, though here it's more of a "British Libel Laws 101 for non-brits". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 LewieP, head guy of SavyGamer a UK site for posting deals on games n such posted an email conversation he had with a marketing firm representing Nintendo http://i.imgur.com/YLvEQ.png (It's kinda big so not gonna embed it) Makes you wonder eh. Oh and there's stuff stirring up with regards to the previous "doritogate" stuff in that MCV have posted a round-up of positive reviews for Hitman (an SE published game, same company one of their writers listed as being employed by in the previous shitstorm), with them listing EG as being "grumpy" for their 7/10 and an outlier, when as many have pointed out plenty of outlets have given it pretty bad review scores. http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/critics-delighted-with-agent-47-s-return-in-hitman-absolution/0106621 It has had a fair few updates and tweaks since. Oh n led to this: http://independently-speaking.com/2012/11/19/the-doubt-is-there/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc4life Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Has Lewie actually contacted Nintendo UK to verify that this guy actually does represent them? Because having SEO in his signature just looks like someone desperate to get people to sign up for whatever dodgy adclick scheme he's got going, and getting his spiel published would certainly grant them a foothold. And you know that SEO people never actually read the sites that they randomly target. I'm surprised they got Lewie that far to be honest, I'd have expected him to just laugh in their face and tell them to take a hike. As for MCV, oh boy, seems they can't do anything right these days. Thing is, since they're industry-centric instead of consumer-based, they've got all the PR people on their side, so they've had people from different companies taking their side and attacking John Walker and the like for (rightfully) calling them out on their bullshit. In other MCV news, I heard they quietly let Lauren Wainwright go. Unsurprising after "Doritosgate" really, but for MCV to step from one hot mess right into another, doesn't bode well for them at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 They didn't get him that far, it was clear from the start it wasn't for him. Just with the recent stuff going on I think he felt it worthwhile just exploring how far down the rabbit hole it goes. And got more than he bargained for in the pre-wrote article. Also these guys don't seem like random shitty SEO company. http://www.mecglobal.com/our-work/case-studies/sony-computer-entertainment-america-playstation/ Yeah MCV has just been terrible today, especially taking to Twitter like it has done. I'm a bit like Mike Rose in the whole "the doubt is there", and before now it'd just seemed like silliness and mostly focused on the somewhat naive Wainwright, but now she's gone and this stuff is not only continuing but amplified so much worse makes you realise it's the whole MVC network. Whcih kinda sucks cos MCV is a sister publication of Develop and I like Develop. Huh, hadn't heard about Wainwright. I had seen her posts still going up in MCV the days following. I guess they held off until it was quiet enough to just take her out back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/bad-linking-plagiarism-and-re-writes-how-game-journalism-is-its-own-worst-e An article on PAR about bad games journalism, specifically the Chinese whispers part (or "telephone" as he calls it) and lack of attribution and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Telephone is the American name for that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Look at you guys being all PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconrath Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 http://x-surface.tum...ything-you-read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Eh, I'm okay with sites posting rumors they can't verify, as long as the articles make it clear that it's just a rumor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Eh, better to not cover the rumour at all. If you were fine blasting out "rumours" as long as marked as such you could post pretty much anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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