Popular Post Mercurial Posted June 24, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 How the fuck is it progressive? You guys seriously read too much into stuff. Why can't it just be a silly show where a boy has to wear girls clothes to be a superhero. That's funny and that's the end of it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Seen bits of Shezow out and about. Can't see it "making kids transgender", though it could potentially open kids to the possibility of being transgender. Which is a good thing in my books. I'd grown up as a teen being like "yeah girls are pretty cool", but occasionally being "so is the lad at front of class". But I knew I wasn't gay, how could you be gay if you were straight? Not a fun spot to be in growing up. Then few years back along comes a term new to me "bisexuality" and I'm suddenly like "well there we go, that's what I am". And it's certainly helped me since (well, at least find inner peace on the matter, still single as hell ). And I'd say if there's kids that are growing up and not feeling quite right with themselves, then being exposed to the concept of transgender would give them some kind of reference point to understand themselves. I've a feeling as a cartoon it'll likely suck, but I'm a crotchety old man who likes Dexters Lab and Powerpuff Girls. As far as the reuters article goes, parents seem a bit unreasonable, but if school has suddenly changed policy on how they treat the girl then it's certainly an issue. I've a feeling another parent was likely involved somewhere along the line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Powerpuff Girls was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 A show about a magical ring that turns a boy into a superhero who just looks like a girl would do more to encourage cross-dressings than to encourage kids to be transgender. Shitloads of male cross-dressers are not transgender at all. If the show treats the cross dressing as a joke, it may actually harm transgender awareness by reducing gender-bending to a joke rather than a legitimate expression of how a person sees him or herself and how s/he may want others to see him or her. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Yeah, similar reasoning for my not wanting of a female Doctor. Becomes a quick reference for a gag, and I'm not sure where this show intends to go with it, could go either way. I can't see them being overtly pro-cross dressing/trans, that'd be a hard sell for kids, but I would hope it won't do it as a "hah, he has to be dressed as a girl and do girl things" joke. It would undermine it, as well as make the show pretty shit as it's not much of a gag you could spread across the show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 The Shezow topic has subsided given that even when you see it doesn't have "an agenda," it's a rather dull show that misses more than it hits on jokes and mainly because it focuses primarily on how a 12 year-old boy is dressed as a girl. Serious, go ahead and watch the pilot and tell me you have an interest in watching more. So really, either people don't watch it because of the cross-dressing, or people above the age of 11 years have little interest or tolerance for the show. I've read how people wanted to give it more of a chance because it could "break gender roles," but it really is just about a rather "macho" boy who can have superpowers only if he commits to doing "girly" things while dressed as a girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 so it sounds more like it's reinforcing gender stereotypes than challenging them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Well, from what little I've been able to watch, it has the air that it wants to challenge gender stereotypes, but the method it goes about it is superficial. I forgot to mention that the boy has a sister who, from my short sampling, is the "girl power" feminist type, to the point of exclaiming "Oh my Goddess." She believes she should have been the next Shezow, and while she helps her brother, she also gets a kick out of her brother failing at girly things. Of mention is that their father is a police officer who has had it out for Shezow, though in truth the original Shezow was their great aunt. I got the feeling it was like a "vigilante justice" tension rather than the father being some kind of macho-sexist type. I'm sure somewhere along the line the two siblings will come to respect each other more, understanding, and etc. Just the show is terrible and I commend anyone able to rough it out to see if it ever gets to that point. Oh, and the boy has a best friend who knows he's Shezow too, but I'm not sure where that goes other than having an accomplice other than a sister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Supreme Court declares the DOMA unconstitutional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 For Californians, there is Prop 8 which the SCOTUS didn't bother with. It effectively means Prop 8 is dead, so marriage for gay and lesbian couples are a go in a month. But to say there won't be a fight over this but at least Prop 8 isn't upheld. Slowly getting there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/06/13/a-survey-of-lgbt-americans/ Pew survey stuff on LGBT americans. Lots of numbers n analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Considering that back in college I had some classmates that were gay, but only some of us would spend time with them, society has changed a lot. Of course, that was in the 90's. One such friend told me of being fired from a shitty job because he was gay. And that was in San Diego, a relatively liberal city. Now days you pull that shit, and you get sued. Rightfully so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Isn't it still legal to fire someone for being gay in like 30 states? I mean, it's still bullshit, but isn't it legal on paper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) Now days you pull that shit, and you get sued. Rightfully so. Only in California (and probably a few other states). It's still not federally protected. *Edit* - Ninja'd by Jack. Edited July 5, 2013 by TheMightyEthan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 West coast is the best coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 US not have nationwide Equal Opportunities laws? If not it's kinda fucked up that US LGBT groups seem to be getting same-sex marriage pushed through yet it's still a fine area to be made unemployed due to sexual orientation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 We do, but sexual orientation/gender identity isn't covered by them. They cover national origin, race, religion, gender (biological gender, though the argument that discriminating based on sexual orientation/gender identity is gender discrimination has gained some very limited success). I feel like there's a couple more things they cover that I'm forgetting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 US not have nationwide Equal Opportunities laws? If not it's kinda fucked up that US LGBT groups seem to be getting same-sex marriage pushed through yet it's still a fine area to be made unemployed due to sexual orientation. that's one of the reason's people get annoyed that LGBT rights seem to have become a one issue campaign of late as there are so many just as (more?) important issues to be tackled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 http://flexuality.wordpress.com/take-the-test/ Ambisexual, for those curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Didn't see it noted anywhere, but many large cities in the USA have passed LGBT employment protection laws. It's out in the GOP fever swamps of rural and suburban America that you can be fired on account of the type of consenting adult with which you like to share orgasms. Also, I scored 'Straight' on the test to which Dean linked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 It never even occurred to me that that's something cities would have the power to regulate. Though I guess I'm used to dealing with the legal powers of cities with populations in the tens of thousands or smaller, which for obvious reasons don't have the same political power as really large cities. Hell, the largest city in the state only has a population of about 385k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Took the quiz thing. I was mostly straight, a little bit heteroflexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 You know, I really don't get the GOP sometimes. Even if you think being gay is wrong, isn't employment one of the cornerstones of their entire philosophy? And then after saying how important jobs are, you're gonna support making someone unemployable for such a meaningless reason? But hey, it's not like this is the first time we've seen hypocrisy in politics. Also the test subtly implied that I was a slut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I'd wager it's inline of "employment is really important, and you'll fix your orientation to achieve it!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I took the test, but it just said, "Stay away from small, furry woodland creatures!". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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