MetalCaveman Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Because it's not a Kojima game. Also, people hate Konami with a passion, something I don't wholy agree with but eh, I'm trying to keep an open mind, but I would've preferred an SP game with co-op elements rather than the focus on co-op they seem to be going with, mostly because everyone I know that plays MGS is spread across multiple platforms, so it's kinda hard to get a team going. We'll see where it goes, certainly not what I was expecting, but IMO, it's way better than a pachinko thingy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Seems like the MGS version of Undead Nightmare. I don't get why people are upset. Undead Nightmare wasn't a 4 player co-op game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 This is disgusting. It wasn't enough to kill Metal Gear, now they have to rape its corpse with a shitty survival game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Thinking about it, MGS has had zombies (or zombie-like) enemies in the past, sure, they weren't the main enemy, but they were there. Also, there's been spin-offs too, Rising was cool, never played Ac!d and I'm not sure if Ghost Babel counts as a spin-off or not, the point is, it may work, I understand some of these reactions after all that went on with V and the Kojima/Konami split, but still, a lot of people seem to be overreacting, for my part, after watching the trailer a couple of times, I'm now somewhat optimistic, will wait for a gameplay trailer before getting my hopes up, but if they manage to blend the gameplay of V with the zombie concept, it could be a cool game. Still somewhat annoyed with the co-op stuff, but we'll see how that turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Undead Nightmare wasn't a 4 player co-op game. Yeah, those shitty Resident Evil co-op games are a better comparison here. If Konami are actually serious about wanting to regain the fans, then going with a co-op zombie survival game, the most generic fucking thing possible, is... bold, I guess? I mean, if they somehow still have people capable of recreating MGSV's gameplay for this, then I might actually bite. Gameplay was the best aspect of MGSV and it was god-tier. Could actually be fun. But there's no way in hell this kind of project is going to win back anyone. They'd have to be out of their goddamned minds to think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 I guaran-fucking-tee you Konami isn't trying to "win people back" with this one. They have the assets from MGSV and they don't want to program enemy AI so they're shitting this out to make a quick buck and turning the enemies into brain dead, easy to code zombies. It's so obvious that it's insulting. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 I was referring to comments recently made by one of their PR guys. It's what he said they intended to do and this is the first game they've announced since. I can only assume it's a part of that effort. Beyond that, we haven't really seen anything so I'm not jumping to conclusions. It's Konami so I'm not expecting much but that's about it. You seem needlessly upset over this and it hardly seems worth it to me. Maybe chill a bit? Have a cup of hot chocolate or something? I mean, as far as I'm concerned, MGS has already been shit on plenty with TPP. The gameplay was incredible but it was its only saving grace. This doesn't seem particularly worse to me than what Kojima already did with the MGS canon. Or maybe I just don't give a shit anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Looks kinda cool, everything is reused from MGSV except for the zombies which aren't called zombies, rather, they're called "creatures", I wonder if the localization is going to have a different name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) It's not even just reused assets. I recognize exactly which part of the map that is, it's the exact same outpost. Honestly, it looked pretty cool until I went "Ha, I recognize that building. Wait. Oh..." Whether or not I get this will depend on how important co-op is. The first half of the video looked like more of that god-tier MGSV gameplay but the defense phase didn't look like something that would be fun to do solo. Edited September 18, 2016 by FLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 Metal Gear being played by people who haven't played it before, while being watched by a guy who is a bit into his MGS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bogie 2.0 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 On 8/17/2016 at 5:15 PM, MetalCaveman said: Also, people hate Konami with a passion, something I don't wholy agree with but eh, I'm trying to keep an open mind (...) Whatever their grievances are with Konami, I find it astonishing how Hideo Kojima seems to always get away with murder. You know, the same guy who was its VP since 2011? The one who finds it imperative to hire Hollywood actors with the company showing signs of being in dire straits? I dunno, folks can like his projects all they want that’s not the issue—me, I find him a complete hack and a plagiarist--, but all this selective outrage is getting into dangerous groupthink to even rival all that brown-nosing Geoff Keighley did not long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Maybe? Very probable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Very likely, because it's just too much of a coincidence. It's not much of a stretch as everything follows a consistent pattern. Only thing I wonder is if Yota and Yugi are backstabbers to Kojima, or people think little of them for keeping their job while Kojima and others were blacklisted by Konami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalCaveman Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) The KJP FOREVER stuff was technically in The Phantom Pain too, as those are the names of the wandering mother base soldiers. The other stuff, yeah I can see it being a thing. Edit: Here are the names: http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Wandering_Mother_Base_Soldiers Edited February 27, 2018 by MetalCaveman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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