Thursday Next Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'd rather you just out and accused me of being a philistine. Dr Strangelove has a serious message but is not a serious film. You are not supposed to sit there and sagely nod your head while a guy in a wheel chair tries to stop his arm from saluting. If you don't think Revengeance is philosophically serious at all then I disagree. Maybe it went over your head because there wasn't a 60 minute cut scene screaming "MESSAGE TIME!" while pounding the rhetoric into your head with a sledgehammer. Revengeance dealt with the surface themes of child soldiers, the rehabilitation of war veterans, how a power vacuum can lead to an insurgency. Under that was Raiden's quest to come to terms with his past as Jack the Ripper, fighting against the memes left to him by his past and creating new memes for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I wouldn't say Dr. Strangelove is not a serious film. It has strong comedic elements, but IMHO, it's more about what the movie is saying than whether or not it has jokes in it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Ok, then maybe we're workingon different definitions here. The Metal Gear series as a whole is to my mind light hearted in tone, with a strong underlying message. Revengeance may lean more to the silly side, while MGS 4 is (and Ground Zeroes looks to be) more on the serious side but I would not say that Revengeance is a parody of Metal Gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Well, I never said anything about Revengeance since I haven't played it yet. But yeah, I was starting to get that you were talking about tone more than anything else. I think something can have a comedic tone but still be considered serious as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Was following on from comments from Excel and MalisiouH that Revengeance looks like an MGS parody and was not to be taken seriously. Yes, I completely agree with you on that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) Well, it's official. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. Really glad it didn't turn out to be related to Ground Zeroes. Err, nevermind. IGN are saying they are in fact two parts of the same game... Looks like MGS5 is an open-world game :/ Edited March 27, 2013 by FLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 They announced the open world shit with the original trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) Oh and having played about half of Revengeance now I would say that the action itself is very over the top but a lot of what the game gives you in terms of things to think about is definitely very Metal Gear Solid like. Raiden is a very different character from Snake. Almost the opposite in some regards so I think the story and what each character values is pretty interesting. edit: Typos Edited March 27, 2013 by Faiblesse Des Sens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) They announced the open world shit with the original trailer. Yeah, for Ground Zeroes. Nothing against that idea but I was kinda hoping that Phantom Pain would be a different, more traditional MGS. edit: trailer and gameplay demo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw5t45tEPWQ edit: updated the trailer embed to a better version, old one was missing a few seconds at the beginning. Edited March 28, 2013 by FLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Nothing against that idea but I was kinda hoping that Phantom Pain would be a different, more traditional MGS. Eh, after so many games, I welcome something a little different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Agreed. I would've preferred it be a spin-off like Ground Zeroes originally seemed to be, but it's really not a big deal. I'm sure it'll be fucking amazing regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnstableArk Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 https://twitter.com/DavidBHayter Looks like David Hayter isn't voicing Snake this time. I don't think people will be happy about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Implying the reason isn't story related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 How do you figure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Oh come on it's Kojima. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 I know, but it seems like an odd detail to be changing from a writing perspective, especially since the voice is so iconic. All I can think of is how Big Boss had a different voice from Snake at the very end of MGS4, but I think that was just because it would've sounded ridiculous to have David Hayter voice them both... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 but it seems like an odd detail to be changing from a writing perspective, especially since the voice is so iconic. ...are you forgetting about MGS2 and Raiden? Anyways, I haven't read up on my news, is it even confirmed you're playing as Solid Snake? Is there ambiguous wording that it's just "snake." Maybe it's meant to be where you think you're playing as Solid Snake but you're really Big Boss? That's the kind of shit I'm expecting here. Just look at the marketing campaign so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Oh, I'm assuming this is a Big Boss game. When I said Snake, I meant Big Boss. Naked Snake and all. But he was also voiced by David Hayter in all the games up until that little bit at the end of MGS4. But yeah, anything could happen with Kojima, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pojodin Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/27/the-phantom-pain-and-metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-are-two-separate-games/ Meanwhile, on Twitter, Hideo Kojima writes: “’Ground Zeroes’ is a prologue of ‘MGSV’. 9 years after that event will be ‘The Phantom Pain’. MGSV is constructed w/ prologue and main game ‘TPP’. The game play demo I presented today is the opening of ‘TPP’ which is tutorial that starts from crawling.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I don't know about you guys, but that was the best gameplay preview of all time! The accuracy of the crawling mechanics... It's unreal! The way that chair flipped when he tried to stand up, i've never seen better physics animation. And when he stood up... Oh man they had me at the edge of my seat! I can't wait to buy this game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) Alright, first bit of speculation. The bad guy in this is Volgin. The disfigured man in the original Ground Zeroes trailer kinda looked like him. Then the guy that walked out of the fire in the gameplay demo had a very similar shape. And there's the line "V has come to" in the trailer. Calling it now: Volgin. Edited March 28, 2013 by TheMightyEthan fixed spoiler tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) Super spoiler: Read this. It's actually says there that that person is him. It's a wiki, but.... http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Yevgeny_Borisovitch_Volgin Edited March 28, 2013 by eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Speculation=spoilers? wut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Metal Gear Legacy Collection CONFIRMED! I've been meaning to get the HD Collection, but now I can hold off until this one because, well, it's pretty much every Metal Gear game you would want to play. Portable Ops isn't on it, but trust me, you're not missing much by playing that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'm just going to wait for the version that has Revengeance in it next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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