Mister Jack Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Reveal hidden contents I gotta say I really like the concept of the Ice King being someone who took care of Marceline after the Mushroom War when she was little. I'm hoping that in the future we get to see this relationship expanded upon, maybe even with a flashback or something if we're lucky. As much of a goof as the Ice King is, that one single act at the end of the latest episode makes him okay in my book, even if he no longer remembers it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 The Ice King is actually quite a complicated character. The crown has made him crazy with translates into Alzheimer's and bipolarity. He's no longer human but once in a while you see glimpses of his humanity, like when he started crying in yesterday's episode. I don't get why people hate him, his character has evolved a lot since the first few seasons where he was just bad. His search for a princess stems from his lost love when he was Simon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 I never hated him, I just didn't think there was much to him for a while. He was a funny loser type and that was it. You know, this might be unintentional but it would explain why you rarely see him and Marceline onscreen together throughout the show. She can't bear to see him the way he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Yeah. And obviously it was intended the whole time hence Hambo [i think thats what the doll was called] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Ash deserved that giant foot stomping even more now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) Gunther! Why did you Gunt my frieeeees! I love Spongebob's voice actor's singing voice in this haha. also Reveal hidden contents http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw6c70Y_XKg :'( Edited October 16, 2012 by Waldorf And Statler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) -tinfoil on- After this episode, I think Reveal hidden contents Simon had a really big role in starting the Great Mushroom War. He had both the Ice Crown and the Enchiridion. If you look on Reddit or the episode itself, you'll find a picture/screenshot with an asteroid coming towards Earth. That’s crater material right there. Nukes cannot blow a hole like that. So yeah, Simon ended the world. With that and Simon in mind, I cannot help but feel that Betty has a role in the creation of the Candy Kingdom and perhaps the other kingdoms as well. She out of anybody had the earliest warning of what was to come when Simon put on the Ice Crown. So I am willing to bet that she either tried to stop Simon, created the seeds of the new world or both. With that said, her direct descendant is PB (I'm not saying that she is PB). My reasoning is that if Betty was trying to save the world, she'll try to do whatever is the most logical since she seems to be that type of person. Knowing PB, who is very much like that, I wouldn't be surprised if Betty is an ancestor. Or perhaps PB is based off of Betty. Eh. -tinfoil off- Now I am going to brood on how Ice King and the Lich are related. Edited October 16, 2012 by MaliciousH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) I fail to see your thought process on the first paragraph. Would you care to elaborate? Specifically the Simon causing the [blank] part. Edited October 16, 2012 by Waldorf And Statler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 About what Malicious said Reveal hidden contents An asteroid would explain why there are people on Mars now. It was probably the privileged/wealthy that were able to migrate to a society on Mars when an asteroid was coming. Considering that a big chunk of Earth is gone, it would stand to reason that people would want to flee somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Reveal hidden contents My current theory is that the Mushroom War was humanity's failed attempt to stop the Lich and his undead army, but this will probably turn out to be wrong next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I just don't get how we went from asteroid to Simon being responsible because Reveal hidden contents he had the enchiridion. The hero's manual. Maybe he was destined to be a hero and still can be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I have to post the full version of Mal's current avatar. Reveal hidden contents 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) I think there should be a whole one hour special of Simon and Marceline traveling around the destroyed Earth and showing Simon slowly losing his mind. I think that'd be an awards worthy episode. also another picture that hits you right in the feelings Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Edited October 17, 2012 by Waldorf And Statler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Reveal hidden contents Gaah those fries. I mean, at first when you hear that Marceline resents her father because he ate her fries it sounds really petty and bratty of her, but in a world that's been completely destroyed (probably by nukes) fries suddenly become a rare treasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Even more if given to her by Simon. Which I doubt it but damn it'd be so nice for my tears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Food for thought: I've often thought that this show was more about what is in the imagination of a child than a reality, as things get too weird at times. To me, that is the only thing that makes sense when I think about the characters. Then, the question becomes more about whose imagination would it be? A boy's? A girl's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 5:03 PM, Waldorf And Statler said: Even more if given to her by Simon. Which I doubt it but damn it'd be so nice for my tears Well, the fries song had the lyric "I bought them and they were mine." I doubt Simon would have charged her for them, unless he was starting to go full Ice King on her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 True. And Revan, I would assume it's both. The silly stuff is definitely Axe Cop humor related toned down, and the princesses, romances and relationship is for the girls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) On 10/17/2012 at 2:03 AM, Waldorf And Statler said: I just don't get how we went from asteroid to Simon being responsible because Reveal hidden contents he had the enchiridion. The hero's manual. Maybe he was destined to be a hero and still can be? Reveal hidden contents As I said, Simon did tons of digging. He dug too deep and unearth Adventure Time's balrog, the Lich. After the current episode, I don't believe the Lich came out of nowhere thus I believe Simon must have some connection to his release. As for the asteroid/meteor: http://i.imgur.com/jb8vc.jpg While the world of Adventure Time has magic and junk, I don't think the before the GMW world really had it or made much use of it (Sort of like Westeros in ASOIF). To make that hole in the Earth requires much more than nukes. I think the Lich may have sent it down. I'm still developing the idea. So eh. Also I'm with you on Ice King being the possible true hero. Though I cannot see how the Ice Crown comes into play. It could just be random... As for Simon turning into Ice King. I really wonder what sort of things he said. Just by Betty's reaction and even Marceline's I don't think its the usual Ice King. Edit: Fuck this episode. Edited October 18, 2012 by MaliciousH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 The Ice Crown is basically the tool that kept him alive. Maybe later he'll regain sanity who knows. As to Simon Reveal hidden contents digging up the Lich he might have we'll have to see if they mention any connections this monday. But it's called the Mushroom war for a reason, the reason for humanity's death has to be nuke's. The meteor might have come later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 7:42 PM, MaliciousH said: Edit: Fuck this episode. http://imgur.com/a/r1LU4/#0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 This is a 2-panel storyboard from a future episode. It doesn't really reveal much, but spoiler warning nonetheless. Reveal hidden contents Now for crackpot theory time Reveal hidden contents Marceline has clearly found something, and the way she's pointing up at it and the angle of the shot indicate two things: 1) Whatever she found is either high up or, more likely, bigger than she is. 2) Whatever she found, it's probably something significant. So maybe Simon really did inadvertantly unleash the Lich from some kind of prison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I'm just glad we're getting more episodes. I'm guessing fan reaction was good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 are you sure that's for a later episode? I seem to find it linked for this monday's episode link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Well by "future" I mean "as of this moment, it has not aired." It could be next week, it could be later. Either way, it hasn't been shown yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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