TheRevanchist Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 For all of you literature and symbolism nuts, one more thing I noticed was the red apple Marceline pulled from the fridge. As you know, what seems random in literature usually has a double meaning. A lot of that meaning is taken directly from the bible in English lit. Ice King even comments on the apple. I think that is quite an obvious symbol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 That miiiiiight be stretching it just a bit. I mean, I won't say it's impossible, but I think they just went with an apple because it's usually the first thing people think of when they are asked to name food that's red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) I never really cared for Marceline as a character before this episode. Not that I hated her or anything, but like most of the other characters most of the time in the show, she had a typical routine when it came to the plot. Either she had a father issue or was the rebellious one who didn't show her feelings easily. I will say, the Doormaster episode warmed me up to her more given that it showed she cared for others in the show rather than just pulling pranks or acting wild. I've felt like the father issue stuff is typical, you know, how "daddy do you love me" and he actually does but it's not so obvious to her. This episode though, I actually for once feel like she has gone through some deep emotional trauma. Sure there was the buttface Ash, but she handled it on her own until Finn and Jake accidentally erased the break up. EDIT: Typo... Edited October 19, 2012 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 I just loved both Marceline and the Ice King more after this. Simon became my favorite character. I love dramatic and tragic characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Ice King's internet search history is quite revealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 But, why even have the apple? We know the show is more than surface deep. It's not written as deeply as you think. And Marceline is destined to wander the earth (assuming Earth). A couple of things other. In American lit, rain and water are used as a plot device for change, like a baptism. Ice King shoots up his lightening bolts in futility, as he can only produce snow, meaning he is incapable of change as he currently is. The name Simon is an old name from the bible. There was Jesus's brother, and also the name of Simon the Zealot (one of the 12 apostles - known as St Simon). That might play into who this character really is. For his last name, Petrikov is the name of a ski resort town, which ties in nicely to the cold theme. The cold theme being that Simon is already dead. Ice King is a cold corpse of who he used to be, also indicated by him only existing because of the magic of the crown. The ironic part is that Ice King wears the crown, but is not even a king to his own existence. My additional theory on the whole idea of Ice King and M being the last two people in existence at the end of the world. So, what little is left of Simon, he uses the power of the crown, sacrificing himself in the process, to create the Land of Ooo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CorgiShinobi Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 When Ice King types in "wiz" and "wizard" in full, one of the results is "wizard chick pics, skinny knees." Huntress Wizard did seem fine. *cough* Oh, and "Jay T. Dawgzone" = J.T.D. = Jake the Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) It could also be their brother. And I'm hoping the creators see all the love this past sequence got and make a long special of the adventures of Marceline and Simon. Edited October 19, 2012 by Waldorf And Statler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Yes, yes, A THOUSAND TIMES YES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Look at my avatar and the picture it is from. If that doesn't show how people absolutely love this episode, I don't know what will. I personally would love to have a branch off mini series that last maybe four episodes that runs after a new episode. Perhaps make it come on monthly or bi-weekly and inbetween serious episodes and funny episodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Realistically, we'd probably be lucky to get one episode centered just on the two of them, but that would still make me happy. Of course, the tone would be very different from the series' usual fare, even the sad episodes like this one. They might think it's too risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 I hope somebody asks on the next Adventure Time panel if there will be any more episode focused on these two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Considering we're getting another Fionna and Cake episode, if fans pushed hard enough, we could get an episode for the proposed sixth season (since fifth season is starting soon). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Upcoming title card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 OH BUBBLEGUM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I hope at some point they put out a soundtrack with redone/extended versions of the show's musical numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I'm really tempted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Where is this from? To be honest, there aren't many t-shirts from Adventure Time that I would wear without feeling a little juvenile. Not necessarily the content/picture, but that sometimes you'd have to consider buying a XXL Boys shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 It's from Welovefine. This one was actually in a design contest. It didn't win but I still like it more than the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Now there are two people in the forum with young marceline as their avatar ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I was using a picture of Simon comforting Marceline at first, but it was just a little too crowded for the size that this forum uses for avatars so I went with the next best thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Yeah, well, I have a picture of a picture of young Marceline for my avatar! Edited October 21, 2012 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 My mind has been blown. I'm glad. Hopefully more people loved this episode as much as we do. I don't care about the sex-changing episodes that much but I'm glad they're listening to fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I'm not all ERMAHGERDFIONNAANDCAKEWHARRGARBL about the rule 63 but I thought it was a cool little spin-off idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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