Dee Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Oh but you have no problems in men with overly sexualized badunkadunks. Let me tell you ma'am, once Nathan Drake has a flabby man ass I'll take your opinion seriously..... .... ... Hah, actually, I kind of do. I don't find men who are overly ripped and running around with their shirts off to be very appealing. It's just too much and unnecessary. In any case, I am not an ass girl. It's all about the face! Having a nice body that isn't too ripped or too skinny is a plus, but that's all secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Gonna have to be me, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Donut Drake is definitely not appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Speaking of body types, I remember a comment thread on Reddit (about women, clothing, games, etc) in r/gaming where an individual was asserting that both scantily clad women and trim/fit men were sexist male fantasies. Commander Shepard isn't a hunk because women might like it, it's to wax the male fantasy of physical fitness! I could go on, but I'll leave that thought here. Personally I've never looked at a male lead and thought how it would be radical to be him, not even physically. If I'm given the option to recreate myself, I'll do the best the game will allow me. It can be fun to indulge in the prospect that you could be the character, like being Booker DeWitt with the women commenting on your figure. It's more of a fleeting moment, if not dependent on your intentions and preferences, but... THAT THE PROBLEM YOU MISOGYNIST PIG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I wouldn't necessarily say it's sexist, but the huge men in games really are designed as power fantasies for men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I wouldn't necessarily say it's sexist, but the huge men in games really are designed as power fantasies for men. Yeah, but I think it's both a power fantasy with the added benefit of physically appealing to women too. Obviously this is an assumption on my part, with my perspective, but I wouldn't think men would like to be "huge" just to be huge. It's about some sense of sexual appeal, and maybe some of these ripped men play a fantasy for female gamers. Or maybe they're more into Leon Kennedy or Dante type characters. Before I sound like I'm saying, "Everybody wants big boobies and raging biceps," I'm more so speaking along the lines of simply finding a character attractive. When guys make a female Commander Shepard, I would think they would also make her attractive, not to everyone else, but what they found attractive in women. Still, another assumption and I imagine many other players chose default faces as they believed those faces to be the true Commander Shepard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Heat Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 I just watched the D&D facebook page lose its collective shit over the artwork for the Thief in D&D: Shadows over Mystara with the usual cries of 'it's sexist!', all the variants of 'low female fantasy armor', a heaping of 'that's not D&D at all!' (have they never looked through the artwork of a given D&D book?) and 'Who cares if it's an old game, they're releasing it during a period where people are more aware of social gender biases! They should retool the game accordingly!'. Over a game that is 17 years old. They have since taken the post down and just re-directed people toward Capcom's Unity page. Can this whole sexism in video games thing be over with? Please? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Can this whole sexism in video games thing be over with? Please? Yeah, let's just ignore the issue. Not saying that it's a case of it here, but it's still an issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Even if there is a bit of sexism in games who the fuck cares? If you don't support what's in the game don't buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Even if there is a bit of sexism in games who the fuck cares? If you don't support what's in the game don't buy it. Ignoring it solves problems! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 It's a game you don't exactly have rights when it comes to if media has a negative message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Is the thief even that bad? Seriously, I'm asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Heat Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Yeah, let's just ignore the issue. Not saying that it's a case of it here, but it's still an issue. I mean this more in the sense of that I'm just tired of people completely failing to properly pick and choose their battles and instead go after EVERYTHING. I think it just dilutes the whole thing. Even if the Thief were sexist (I personally don't think it's a sexist design so much as it's sexualized/fetishistic), isn't it just a little too late to be upset about it? Do people really think Capcom would go and redraw the character and sprites over it? Like I said, the game is 17 years old. That's an awfully stupid battle to pick. Is the thief even that bad? [Pictures of Moriah the Thief!] Seriously, I'm asking. Apparently it is to D&D players. Which is really ironic if you ask me. Frankly, I think it is not much different from Black Widow or the typical femme fatale in a spy catsuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Even if there is a bit of sexism in games who the fuck cares? If you don't support what's in the game don't buy it. Ignoring it solves problems! Boycotting a product is not ignoring the issue. In fact, it's just as, if not more, effective than bleating on forums. If no one bought games that were sexist, no one would make games that were sexist. Awareness is needed for sure, but if all the aware people do nothing then it's pretty pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Yes, but the implication of Krieger's comment is "if you don't like it don't buy it, but in any event shut up about it." It's a game you don't exactly have rights when it comes to if media has a negative message. No one's saying they don't have the right to make sexist games if they choose, just that they should choose not to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Fair comment. Also agree. Freedom of speech cuts both ways. They're allowed to make sexist stuff. We're allowed to remind them that it is sexist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) But then how is it a problem? FDS talks about it like it should be something that should be fixed. Edited June 6, 2013 by Dr.Krieger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 It is something that should be fixed... by them choosing not to do it anymore... because it's bad to degrade an entire segment of society... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 I'm fine with us taking into account it's an issue, but I also agree with the sentiment that the term 'sexist' is thrown around just about fucking everywhere on the internet and in this forum to the point it's almost a joke to call somebody that now because chances are nobody else will take you seriously. The issue with that Atlus game with the booby body pillows is something I'll argue was male-fantasy to the point of what I consider somewhat sexism. Not to mention the author then basically called the critics of this issue gay as an insult, then back offed and said it wasn't meant to be taken as him calling them gay. But if a guy makes a joke, I don't wanna be friends with a woman who can't take it. And I'm not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 "If someone makes a racist joke, I don't wanna be friends with the minority who can't take it." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 I'm a minority who can take jokes, so to a degree yes. I pick and choose my friends. I don't go around making sexist/racist jokes to everybody I meet irl, only once I test the waters. I start out with a very basic self-insult to my race. If they're another race, then a very subtle stereotype, then back to me. I call it the Rainbow sandwich and if they like the bite, we'll be good friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Heat Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 W&S does exactly what I do. Only probably with less self-hate than me (because let me tell you, I hate being even half black). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Look at the bright side. If you were 100% black, you couldn't be President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Heat Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 That's fine, I'd be an awful president. I'd be a great dictator though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) NSFW image follows, but I assure you it's worth it. Edited June 6, 2013 by Waldorf And Statler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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