Mr. GOH! Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 You can't pick anything other than Douchebag as a name, i thought. I got an achievement for not choosing a name and selecting "yes" when Cartman first asks if you want to be Douchebag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Yeah, if you out in anything else he asks if you want to be Douchebag, and if you say no he just pretends you said yes anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Has anyone figured out a way to refill mana besides using items? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/mar/05/south-park-stick-of-truth-game-censored-europe I'm kind of hoping a bigger stink is made about this. Basically Ubisoft have censored Stick of Truth in Europe and for some reason trying to pass it off onto the government despite (apart from Germany) them having very little to do with games ratings which is all done through PEGI which can't censor stuff (and as the article covers they'd already rated the uncut version at 18 anyway). Bit of a dick move and I don't really understand what Ubisoft expects to gain. They're knocking out a South Park game that they've censored and unless Ubisoft has some weird thing going on with politics they've nothing to gain from trying to make it look like EU is doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 And in Australia they're blaming the koalas! I don't think that the text of these replacement scenes places the blame on the governments of the EU or Australia. I rather think that the protest of censorship comes from Matt and Trey (and *maybe* Obsidian) and is aimed at Ubi, or Ubi's EU and Asutralian divisions. This sort of snafu smacks of idiot corporate management meddling more than anything. I don't think there's any evidence that Ubi or Obsidiana re blaming governments for the censorship; the Guardian rightly points out that the uncut version is rated Pegi 18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Regarding mana... it seems to be just items that can refill it. No way that by level nine that I won't find at least one add on that refill my mana. It is kind of making me a mis-classed mage who does mostly warrior things. Anyways... I freaking love the Cartman chants during the overworld (lack of better term) theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I beat the game last night and never found another way to refill mana besides using items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 If they're not passing it off on governments why put the EU flag behind the "Censored" message? Surely they've got plenty of vector purple whirlwind logos to whack on the backgrounds instead. (Though as for Australia they actually do have issues with game censorship) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Because it's a symbol of the EU, which is the region in which it's censored. If it were censored in the US and they'd put a US flag behind a picture of a crying buffalo or something I wouldn't assume they were saying the government did it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 It's actually censored in Europe as a whole not just for EU (and also Australia, and a bunch of straggler countries). Anywho it was only after I posted last comment I realised Americans might not fully grasp why it's a bit of a dodgy move to implicate EU in censoring a video game when they EU isn't involved at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 In Australia they don't have the EU flag, they have a crying koala. I don't know what the image is in the other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 They used the flag as a symbol for Europe because there aren't many widely-accepted symbols for Europe other than that flag and a map. The map probably just didn't look as good. I am quite certain Ubi and Obsidian and Matt and Trey aren't blaming European governments for the censorship. Well, maybe the German government for however that ends up getting censored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Why would you need to put the flag of the EU up at all? Why is a "symbol of Europe" required to show that Ubisoft have chosen to censor their own game in several territories around the globe? What's wrong with a bit of South Park imagery, a blacked out screen, happy fun trails, why a face palming David next to the EU flag with "Censored" splashed across it? Within Europe it's Germany that actually has the censorship rules, and those only apply to Nazi symbols (which weren't removed ). Australia doesn't like the whole anal probe stuff, we know this from Saint's Row. But everything else in the rest of Europe? It's all fine and dandy. EU has nothing to do with any part of the game or game ratings or whatever (well beyond trying to give gamers rights that Valve don't want us to have). The fuck up with the German version not removing the only thing that should have been censored and the PC version within Europe being uncensored just paints it as one massively major fuck up on Ubisoft's part that is likely never going to be resolved and probably going to end up with some "Uncut" DLC further down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 The symbol of Europe is used to show that it's censored in Europe. Different symbols are used in other territories (such as the koala in Australia). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Why would it need to indicate it's censored in Europe? Especially as it's censored in Australia,Taiwan, Middle East, Singapore and several others as well. The flag of the country who does have censorship laws within Europe is: So why not use that one if Ubisoft feels they really needed to use a flag in Europe to show that the game was needlessly censored rather than using the flag of a government not involved with the game or it's ratings in any way. As noted PEGI actually fully okayed the uncensored game. Ubisoft then censored the game with an EU flag and resubmitted the game. The only country where the censorship laws apply within EU, Germany, doesn't use PEGI but has it's own board the USK, oh and the history with the Nazis that kinda cause issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 ITT: Butthurt Europeans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 ITT: Americans not grasping the EU situation very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I grasp it fine. It's perfectly straightforward: it is censored in various regions, in each of those regions they choose a picture that they felt was thematically appropriate to the region, in the Europe region that picture is the EU flash, that in no way implies the EU government was involved in the censorship but just represents the region. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Don't step to me about knowledge of the workings of the EU, Dean. I've worked at a Frankfurt law firm on transnational EU corporate deals and regulatory compliance. I am fully aware the EU as a political entity had nothing to do with any scrubbing of content in the Stick of Truth. I also know that Germany's getting its very own special actually-censored edition without swastikas and with other cuts. What I am saying is that the flag is there to indicate that the geographical area in which the EU sits is deprived of content. That is why in Australia the cut-content screen features a koala. The EU flag represents the geographical area, not the political entity. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 ITT: Americans not grasping the EU situation very well. The buttdevastation continues. South Park likes to piss people off. It's working very well here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 But the EU flag is for the government. As you've already noted yourself, there is no flag for Europe as a continent. Also Australian flag looks like: Not a koala. The funny thing here being that the Australian government does actually run the Australian Classifications Board and is therefore directly responsible for the censorship. But hey, Koalas. By creating a version of the game that is needlessly censored and associating this censorship and restriction with the EU government Ubisoft is doing something very Wrong. I understand that you understand that EU isn't involved with the games ratings board. I (think) I understand that you understand that Ubisoft is self-inflicting the censorship on the game. The problem is, for a nation where we're currently steamrolling towards a decision that could have pretty big impact on the general way of life for decades to come, it'd be nice to not have video game publishers playing politics and not clarifying that "this is a thing the EU is absolutely not at all involved with despite us putting their flag on the censored bit as a sign that despite EU only contains 27 countries and only one of them has censorship laws and there's another 25 countries not in the EU affected by it too, as well as other nations around the world". But hey, I guess that's just us old "butthurt Europeans" eh? My final say on the matter, now to just hope a fucking South Park video game of all things won't be the sort of game that EDL and UKIP louts will be drawn towards. Oh wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 You guys are arguing over not being able to see Randy get anally violated. Jesus Christ guys. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Randy's a geologist. I must see an anally violated geologist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 You guys are arguing over not being able to see Randy get anally violated. Jesus Christ guys. totally read that in Mr. Slave's voice. Anyway-- Playing the game on 360, only ran into a few bugs causing me to either dashboard out of the game and back in (one time) I think because I walked by, not into an area that attempted to trigger a cutscene I technically wasn't ready for, or reboot my 360 (one time). Nothing utterly devastating or experience ruining so far, unlike Kotaku's review. I just finished night 2, and um, that certainly was something. I have noticed, like others, the classes don't seem to really matter squat, just give you different powers with your PP.It is nice looking for ways to use the environment to take care of enemies for you, especially in areas (read: any) where another battle can be tedious. and video game bush. That's a first. figures it'd be a South Park game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Finally got the platinum trophy! It's one of the easier ones to get, I'd say. You just need to be wary of all the missable ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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