MetalCaveman Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 As long as DOOM remains ETERNAL multiplatform, I don't mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 http://sukeban.moe/index.php/2020/12/01/nirvana-delay-en/ Nirvana to be delayed with release date of when it's done. I'm sure it'll be fine but still I was hoping for it this year. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Better to have it be delayed than put out half-finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 So I bought Kingdom Hearts All in One because it was on sale for $30, but now I kind of feel like I should return it. I have a ton of other games to play: Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Concrete Genie, Star Wars Squadrons, Hyrule Warriors 2, Watch Dogs Legion (which I'm also considering returning), Spider-Man Remastered, and Immortals Fenyx Rising. Kingdom Hearts just seems like a huge thing hanging over my backlog, and the prospect of playing it is kind of daunting, but at the same time I've always been a little interested and I've never seen it get that cheap. Anyone have any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Definitely return Watch Dogs. Everything I've seen about it suggests it's going to get a huge price drop sooner rather than later. Even then I don't know if it'd be a good idea to buy it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 After reading how KH3 doesn't have the Final Fantasy characters as much anymore kind of dropped my interest of ever finishing the fight. With that said, KH games for the most part got good gameplay to the point that I wondered if its gameplay should be used in a Final Fantasy title (which a form of it eventually did in FFXV). But yeah, it's a lot of hours for such a weird mash of worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 On 12/2/2020 at 6:30 AM, TheMightyEthan said: Better to have it be delayed than put out half-finished. My year got saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 About fucking time. The fact that they're coming out all at once kinda makes me think they were sitting on them until the Xbox versions were ready, which is pretty lame tbh. I'm long past giving a shit about games coming to other platforms but this one makes me a little salty. I could've been playing Yakuza games all year if they had released them individually as they were ready. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 It's time to actually get serious in playing those games. I've been sitting on 0 for a long time. If I can knock 0 and the remakes of 1 and 2 then I'll be ready for that collection. Maybe I'll be ready for 6 by March... then I can check out Like a Dragon. I really want to check out this amazing JRPG with middle aged men. Sounds so amazing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 From what reviewers have said you can play Like a Dragon without having played the others, it's a good entry point. You'll miss out on a few references here and there, but mostly it's its own thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 I'm gonna clarify that by saying it's a good entry point IF you don't plan to play the Kiryu saga. If you want to play the Kiryu saga and just haven't gotten around to it yet then you should do that first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Looking at Steam, I somehow stopped 0 with over 10 hours played. I wonder what the fuck happened since I don't recall me not liking the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Yeah, I checked in with someone that's been playing it and it spoils things for the previous games. Never trust reviewers on shit like that lol. And @Mal you almost make it sound like you wanna rush through Zero to get at the rest and man, just don't! Zero is so good, savor it. If anything, it's Kiwami 1 you should feel that way towards. It's not bad by any means but even remade the original still feels weak compared to the others. And Zero was basically made to enhance it, so it's retroactively made more interesting by playing Zero first. And btw, I have spare keys for Kiwami 1 and 2 from Humble Choice if you want them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Yakuza 0 is probably tied with Like a Dragon for best game in the series depending on your tastes. I could see someone reasonably giving either game the edge based on their preferences. FLD is right, though. You shouldn't rush through 0. It has so much to offer. If I were to rank the games from best to worst to use as a reference for how much time you should spend on them, I'd probably go with 0/Like a Dragon > 5 > Kiwami 2 > Kiwami 1 > 6 > 4 > 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, FLD said: Yeah, I checked in with someone that's been playing it and it spoils things for the previous games. Never trust reviewers on shit like that lol. I was mostly basing that off of what Britney from What's Good Games said about it, and she's obsessed with Yakuza so I figured she would know. Is it maybe the kind of spoilers that won't actually mean anything to someone who hasn't played the other games, and therefore won't stick in your brain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Mister Jack said: 0/Like a Dragon > 5 > Kiwami 2 > Kiwami 1 > 6 > 4 > 3 Damn, half the series is worse than Kiwami 1? That's... disappointing. I was hoping as the series went on the games would keep getting better as they build up to Y0/6. 39 minutes ago, TheMightyEthan said: I was mostly basing that off of what Britney from What's Good Games said about it, and she's obsessed with Yakuza so I figured she would know. Is it maybe the kind of spoilers that won't actually mean anything to someone who hasn't played the other games, and therefore won't stick in your brain? No idea who/what that is and I obviously can't comment on specifics until I play the game. All I know is someone on another forum that's a big fan mentioned that halfway through the game didn't have any spoilers but as they got closer to the end I asked again if the game was still spoiler-free for the previous entries and their answer changed to an emphatic no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) @FLD 3 and 4 are definitely worse. When it comes to 6 I think it's a fine game, it's just smaller scale compared to 5. It doesn't have as many activities or cities or playable characters so while I still liked 6, it just doesn't have hundreds of hours worth of content. Also I don't know who this Britney is but she's full of shit. The plot of Like a Dragon is spoiler city. Edited December 11, 2020 by Mister Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, FLD said: No idea who/what that is and I obviously can't comment on specifics until I play the game. All I know is someone on another forum that's a big fan mentioned that halfway through the game didn't have any spoilers but as they got closer to the end I asked again if the game was still spoiler-free for the previous entries and their answer changed to an emphatic no. Actually, now that you say this I'm remembering better (it was a while ago that I listened to that podcast), and I'm thinking maybe she did say she wasn't done with it yet, but was like 40 hours in, so she just might not have got to the spoilery parts yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 The spoiler discourse from Yakuza reminds me of Kiseki/Trails and more specifically if/how much Cold Steel spoils Crossbell or how much those two spoils Sky. Total opposite opinions. Anyhow, sure, I'll take my time with 0. Still, it's odd to play a more polish prequel. Typically you'll see me advocate for release order for game play reasons so you don't absolutely get smacked by less refined game play loops (ideally it gets better with time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 58 minutes ago, Mal said: Typically you'll see me advocate for release order for game play reasons so you don't absolutely get smacked by less refined game play loops (ideally it gets better with time). I'm with you there but Zero is a special situation. The original Yakuza is kinda barebones compared to later entries and the story by itself is a little rough. I have a theory that the entire reason they made Zero was because they wanted to remake the first two games to appeal to new players and realized how godawful the original was as an entry point. Zero isn't just a fantastic game in its own right, it's a much better introduction to the series and it's not even close. And like I said above, it retroactively makes the story of Kiwami more interesting to the point where Kiwami ends up almost feeling like a story add-on for Zero. Also, since Kiwami is a remake, you don't really need to worry about less refined gameplay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 Took the words out of my mouth. Even if Yakuza 1 came before 0, the story of Kiwami is much better served by 0 devoting time to developing the characters so you'll actually care about them in Kiwami. That extra bit of context makes a huge difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 How faithful of a remake is Kiwami? Has it been significantly updated or is there still a lot of "old game is old"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 2 hours ago, TheMightyEthan said: How faithful of a remake is Kiwami? Has it been significantly updated or is there still a lot of "old game is old"? For Kiwami 1, it's sort of in the middle? Combat was updated to modern standards and they added stuff like side-quests and the Majima everywhere system but overall it's fairly faithful, I think. The story is unchanged and I vaguely recall some people being disappointed about the cutscenes because, IIRC, they actually re-used animation data from the PS2 version, so they look kinda weird and stiff. I can't say about Kiwami 2 because I never played the original Yakuza 2 but as far as I'm aware that one is more of a proper remake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 Aside from a massive graphics update, Kiwami added the 4 different combat styles from Yakuza 0, new mini games and missions, the Majima Everywhere mechanic, and new story content to further flesh out characters from Yakuza 0. There's really no reason to play the original version at all except for curiosity's sake. It gets a bad rap sometimes, but mostly because 0 was such a huge, ambitious game and Kiwami is much more humble by comparison. I got Kiwami for 20 bucks and I don't regret it at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Not that I really care about or put much stock in The Game Awards or pretty much any award show but I have to take umbrage with The Last of Us 2 winning Best Game Direction. Never mind all the other awards, but I got a real problem with the industry giving such an accolade to a game that was made under conditions where everyone had to crunch for months at a time. That isn't good direction, let alone the best direction in the industry. It is bad direction but I guess the fact it won anyway means people really don't care about that factor after all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.