TheMightyEthan Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Microsoft reaffirms it's committed to PC gaming, because it's been several years and they hope someone might believe it this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Sharing game footage on youtube is about to become a lot more complicated. If I knew how to program and build websites I would be trying to start a gamecentric competitor to youtube right now. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/8565-Copyright-War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) I always found the idea of LPers getting paid odd. I can understand reviews and first impressions (Like WTF is...) creators getting paid since they're doing something with it. Not to say that LPers can't just show the game off without having to worry that some publishers axing them. I watch streams of games all the thing and the folks I watch don't get paid for it. There might be a donation every so often to keep the website and Ventrilo server running but that is it. I enjoy watching people playing (Most) games so it would be a shame if that is stopped. So yeah, I tilt my head at some of the monetizing aspects of sharing gameplay footage but I am against all this lazy and disruptive copyright claims by pubs. Edit: Though I suppose the ARMA II and III videos that I love so much from ShackTac wouldn't be possible without this monetization of gameplay footage. Though I don't think BIS cares since they're all about community created content. Edited December 11, 2013 by MaliciousH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 A lot of it is automated now. Even minecraft videos get taken down and Notch has made it clear that he is 100% okay with monetizing footage of his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffles Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Edit: Though I suppose the ARMA II and III videos that I love so much from ShackTac wouldn't be possible without this monetization of gameplay footage. Though I don't think BIS cares since they're all about community created content. That's actually an interesting example because BIS requires you to get permission from them if you want to use their games for monetization. If I remember correctly they're pretty stingy about it too, taking down some videos in violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 That sounds reasonable. In an ideal world, it should be the copyright holders/content creators that have the final and only say on how they would like their work to be monetized by fans. We can have blanket yes like with Paradox Interactive (Super cool by the way), something like what BIS is doing and outright no's. People may cry bloody murder if its a blanket no by the copyright holder but eh, their decision. What has been happening with Youtube right now (And for a while now, it just haven't been this bad) however is well, on Youtube's end as far as I can tell. Its a mess and it seems to flow back to our copyright laws. Though some (Most, really...) of it from what I recall is all on Youtube like how I can if I wanted to... flag a video for some copyright thing just because I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I really don't see why posting footage on YouTube to talk about or show off a game is a bad thing. These companies have the legal right to censor videos focused on their games, I'm just not convinced that they should. How exactly does it hurt them? Unless you're getting negative reviews, I suppose, and then you're just being weasily and dishonest to try to suppress it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Brand image. They may not want their brand associated with random internet dickwads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 We're taking about companies like Activision and Sega. It's way too late for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I meant individual game brands. The average player doesn't give one single shit about who the publisher is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Apparently game publishers are telling people to challenge the claims so that they can dismiss them from their end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 It's even worse than we thought. Even major players in youtube like Angry Joe and Boogie are getting their videos claimed. You can argue the point of whether Let's Plays should be monetized until the cows come home, but claiming reviews and even interviews with game developers is just plain wrong. The new youtube system is a complete mess, and if google doesn't backpedal on this hard and fast it's literally going to ruin a lot of lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 People being dicks where IPs are concerned? Who knew?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 It's not people being dicks, it's an algorithm that's probably being a little more zealous than intended. Most of the hits are off of the music in the background of games, because the algorithm auto-matches it to its library of copyrighted music (those games' released soundtracks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 That's still an issue of people being dicks with copyright laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Burden should be on the claimant to show or prove that infringement occurs before a takedown is issued. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm not defending what's happening, I'm just saying there's a difference between "people being dicks" and "people doing something that makes sense on paper but has unintended effects in practice". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) I still see it as people being dicks to begin with, but I guess that's another topic. Edited December 12, 2013 by Saturnine Tenshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Walt Dickney? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I still see it as people being dicks to begin with, but I guess that's another topic. Yes, how dare people want to prevent other people from copying their shit and selling it without their permission. How unreasonable! That's what this is trying to get at: monetization of copyrighted material by non-copyright owners. Yes, there's a lot of collateral damage, and if they don't fix that within a reasonable time then I'll agree they're being dicks, but at this point it's just an unintended consequence of an otherwise reasonable action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I see what you did there, Ethan. What with the sarcasm. That's why I didn't even bother bringing it up. : / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Not sure this warrants its own thread (yet?) but looks like there is going to be a Firefly game after all. Seems to have been announced a little while back, but the first I heard of it was the other day. Due to arrive Summer 2014 on Windows, Mac, Android and iOS (with your account carrying across for whichever, should you wish for portability). It's called Firefly Online but is a single-player RPG with social features like trading, rescuing, creating quests etc. None of that 'invite 5 friends to get your ship an engine'. Will have a bunch of customisation options as well as crafting, and it seems like it'll have a turn-based combat system in the X-COM mould (or the option to try and smooth-talk your way out if you fancy). It actually doesn't sound half bad. Though, obviously, there's not much to go on right now besides that brief and a few bits of concept art and development shots (that io9 handily put into a big article). I wouldn't go expecting anything wildly complex, of course, because it's probably not been given a massive budget; plus, it says the Android and iOS versions won't seem 'stripped-down' (though that seems to be feature-wise)... Edited December 14, 2013 by Hot Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Oh boy. I see youtube's new content ID system is working just swimmingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Oh, forgot about that. It's actually loading in Canada. Fucking Youtube. Can watch it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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