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PCs can be put to sleep too, dude. And I seriously doubt your console (or the game, for that matter) turns off completely when you put it in sleep mode. Like, I get what you're saying but it's kind of a weird thing to bring up as an advantage inherent to consoles when it's something PCs have been doing for decades lol.

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18 minutes ago, Mal said:

Hmm, I actually never tried to alt-tab out of a game then put my PC to sleep.

 

Neither had I, to be honest, but I just tried it with Witcher 3 and it worked just like you'd expect it to. I'll admit that it probably feels more convenient on a console where gaming is the only thing you'll be doing. It just never fails to amuse me to see consoles getting credit for playing catch-up lol.

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Wow, it had never occurred to me that alt-tabbing and putting PC to sleep wouldn't break the shit out of the game... Like, I'd thought of doing it but just assumed the game wouldn't work right after waking and I never actually tried it... oh my God...

 

Like, it's probably still not usable for me because Windows doesn't like it if I put my PC to sleep with my TV as the primary display, and games don't like it if I change displays while they're already running, but I fully understand that's very specific to my setup.

 

*Edit - I still think console gaming is the way of the future for me, because I can sit back and just enjoy them without screwing with settings every 5 minutes to get them running just right, but I also understand that's a personal failing of mine and not an inherent problem with PCs.

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2 hours ago, TheMightyEthan said:

Wow, it had never occurred to me that alt-tabbing and putting PC to sleep wouldn't break the shit out of the game...

 

Yeah, it probably depends on the game tbh. I used Witcher 3 because it's a big game and it's fairly stable. Making sure sleep mode doesn't crash the game is probably on the list of things the certification process for a console will make it a point to test. I'm not sure you can realistically expect every single developer out there to specifically test what happens when you alt-tab out of the game and then put the PC to sleep, though lol.

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I'm hearing rumors recently (and there are also some articles floating around) suggesting that next gen games could cost 70 dollars. If that turns out to be the case I'm gonna have to seriously rethink this hobby and probably stop buying new games at release except for stuff I'm anticipating years in advance like Persona 6. It may "only" be 10 bucks more but that would add up really quick. I have a huge backlog of games I've never touched, and if this new price point becomes the norm it might be time to finally start going through that.

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Yeah, if they bump the price up then I'll just be done buying games day one. Because over here they'll probably end up costing around 100CAD$ and honestly at that point all I can say is: go fuck yourself lmao. The only games I'd even consider buying at that price are the ones that I absolutely must play like Death Stranding or Cyberpunk 2077 and those only come around like once or twice in a generation.

 

I mean, hell, even at "just" 80 bucks I already kinda noped out. When I do pre-order full priced games it's on third-party sites like GMG and Humble where they're discounted enough that they go back to the normal price of a decade ago. 80 bucks is a tough sell, higher than that is just not gonna happen.

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Horizon pre-order is live on Steam, coming August 7th.

 

 

Regional pricing is actually really good but holy fuck at asking 50 bucks for a 3 year old port lmao. 20-30 bucks would've been a no-brainer. But at almost 60CAD$? You're kinda losing me there, Sony...

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Lol looks like the great regional pricing for Horizon was a mistake because it got "fixed". It's only up to 59.99CAD$ for me but it sounds like some regions got hit with a more significant bump. With the ridiculously high base price for a 3+ year old game, I can't say I'm too surprised to find out it was a mistake...

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Yeah, I expected them to charge a bit of a premium but this is ridiculous. But honestly, if that's what it takes for the ports to keep coming then fine by me. The games will be coming months and years late anyway, I can wait a little longer until the price drops to my sweet spot. Like you said above, my backlog can keep me busy for years at this point. And it's not just random junk that I might potentially enjoy, there are some great games in there that I've genuinely wanted to play for years and just never got around to.

 

So, whatever. Do your worst, Sony. I can outwait you!*

 

*except for Bloodborne...

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Apparently NBA 2K21 is going to be $70 on next-gen consoles. This has added fuel to the speculation that $70 is going to be the normal price for games next gen (although 2K is also well known for gouging its customers so it might just be them).

 

A lot of people are saying that's too much for games, but honestly my initial gut reaction is it sounds reasonable to me. I just checked, and a 360 launch game that cost $60 in the US in 2005 would be $78 now when adjusted for inflation, so coming up to $70 now is still cheaper in real money terms than what those games were back in 2005. Like obviously I would prefer they stay cheaper, but I don't feel like I can really complain about cost adjustments over time. Everything gets more expensive, and we've been lucky to keep 2005 prices for as long as we have.

 

That said, I do feel like we've lost the AA price tier. It used to be some games would launch at $40 or $45, rather than going for the full $60 price point, and you don't really see much of that anymore. Not every game is a full AAA game that warrants that same high price. At the same time I can see smaller titles that don't move as many units as the big boys feeling more financial pressure to keep up with inflation just to stay in business, and if you're looking at going up to $50 or $55 you're so close to the "standard" price of $60 that you might as well jump all the way up. So hopefully if $70 does become the norm we'll start seeing more AA tier games priced around $50 or so again.

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@TheMightyEthan Everything gets more expensive but at the same time wages on average have stagnated for god knows how long. You just can't have it both ways. If the minimum wage were actually raised to a livable standard like it should have been ages ago I think people could swallow a 70 dollar price point a lot more easily but I suspect that for a lot of folks this is just too much. When the federal government still believes that $7.25 is good enough to get by in the year 2020 then at some point something's gotta give.

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Apparently physical copies of Ghost of Tsushima are already so hard to find that people are scalping them for 100+ dollars online. Corona is bound to be a factor here but Sony still really screwed up on distribution. I feel lucky that I managed to get what might have been the last copy in the tri-county area in my state. Someone at a Gamestop told me they didn't even get enough copies to cover their pre-orders. Digital is always an option, at least, so nobody has to miss out on the game entirely if they are desperate, but I usually prefer having physical copies whenever I can. Modern games have huge file sizes that take forever to download and even if you can preload them they still wreak hell on data caps. If I ever have to delete or reinstall a game I'd much rather pop in a disc than wait for a download.

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Apparently it's more popular than they predicted. I've also seen more discussion/screenshots of it on my Twitter feed than any game for a long time (even ignoring my own screenshot spam).

 

I also prefer to get physical copies whenever possible, just because any more I rarely replay games, and so I like being able to trade them in after I finish them.

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So, Dragon Quest XI S is coming to other platforms, including PC. Yay!

 

It's a separate version, not an upgrade, and doesn't give existing owners a discount. Boo!

 

It's actually a port of the Switch version and will look worse than the original release across all platforms. ...what?!?

 

 

Seriously, just when you think you've reached peak Square-Enix, they go ahead and pull something like this. I swear, this company's ineptitude knows no bounds...

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