TheMightyEthan Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I second Jessica Jones being excellent. Trailer is also excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 On the Civil War Trailer: "You've operated with unlimited power and no supervision." Thought to myself "I don't see why not having optical super powers makes him a bad guy.". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Finished Jessica Jones. Amazing stuff. Towards the start I was a little apprehensive when things were slower, with some subplots that seemed a little too tangential (although, you could guess where they were going) but things escalate quite dramatically and everything ties together nicely. I was even impressed by Tennant, who I'd worried was just going to be hamming it up as "evil Doctor Who". But, yeah, it has so much going on and a really cool, interesting, surrounding cast of characters that I think I prefer it to Daredevil... and I really liked Daredevil. The action scenes were also pretty neat, but I think Daredevil's were generally cooler and had some really strong moments. As for Civil War: I'm hyped. It's worth bearing in mind that, despite the expanded cast, this is not Avengers 2.5. It is still a Captain America film in the vein of Winter Soldier (which was awesome), so I wouldn't expect the same sort of thing. Hell, I'm glad it's not quite like the comics because, frankly, that sucked a whole bunch and is one of the continuous big "event" comics that Marvel kept doing that put me off them. This seems rooted in the characters' relationships, the underlying principles and tensions and that's what makes good stories. All the big Marvel comic events were, essentially, "A thing happens, now let's have 5 issues of setup and 3 issues of just everyone fighting. Don't worry because we'll reset everything in a year anyway" and it bloooows. I want to see that Cap/Tony fall-out, I want to see why Black Widow is pro-reg after everything that's happened. I want to see Ant-Man. And I want to see what the fuck Martin Freeman is doing in there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I just finished Jessica Jones, and really like it. One thing that's been nagging at me though (late episode spoilers): If Killgrave's power is the result of virus he's putting off into the air then how the hell was he able to control everyone in the hospital through the TV/intercom? I know his powers were getting intensified, but that shouldn't have changed the mechanism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I imagine it was because he was still in the building, so his 'virus' could reach through all the hallways/doorways of the building. I don't think he could just go on national TV and control the country. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Yeah, his power does not make a whole lotta sense. Best not to think about how it's supposed t work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 I imagine it was because he was still in the building, so his 'virus' could reach through all the hallways/doorways of the building. I don't think he could just go on national TV and control the country. Yeah, his power does not make a whole lotta sense. Best not to think about how it's supposed t work. Somehow I missed these when they were first posted. Typically I'm fine with not worrying about how that kind of thing works, the exception being when they explain how it works. Once they've explained it then I expect it to behave in accordance with the explanation. TCP's explanation is good enough for me though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 So I've been watching a bunch of Agents of SHIELD since I've heard it gets better and it's leaving Amazon Video on 6th Jan... and I have some free time. It is nice in that there are some little twists and surprises and neat moments in there, but there is also such terrible dialogue and plotting. And Clark Gregg is distractingly wooden. As an example of this weird mixture, there is a scene where Coulson remarks about modern technology making people less appreciative of the old tricks, while twiddling a business card for a fake identity. A couple of scenes later, Agent Ward is portraying this false person in order to approach the family member of the person they're tracking. He does this by some made-up story about a lottery win that he needs to contact them about, leaving this business card with the woman. Ward returns to Coulson and says that the lottery choice is a hard sell. Coulson replies with something along the lines of, "Exactly. It's enough to make anyone suspicious." Nevertheless, this family member leaps straight on the phone seconds later and calls the target. Turns out this "old trick" business card is a fucking phone-tracking thing that hacks the line and pinpoints the receiver's location almost immediately. And to make matters worse, despite saying that the whole cover story was suspicious, Coulson charges to this location with the team as if it isn't going to be a trap. (But it was a trap). Also, the subtitles they're using must be done by auto-caption or just a lazy person. Numerous missed bits and conjoined sentences as well as a few cases of "Skye" being put as "this guy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I think the "old trick" thing was just Coulson fucking with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) If you're not at least in the final 2 or 3 episodes of season 1, you're not at the good part yet. Just tough it out. TCP's explanation is good enough for me though. Quoted for posterity. Edited December 30, 2015 by The Cowboy Poet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I think the "old trick" thing was just Coulson fucking with them. But he's only fucking with audience perception, which itself is too "written". Plus, he loves old stuff like the watch and the car and the *sniff* Captain America trading cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Agents of Shield gets better near the end of the first season. But it never gets good and feels increasingly decoupled from the rest of the MCU in the later parts of Season 2 and in Season 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) I wish they'd tie AoS more into the Defenders shows than the movies, that might be more of a successful two-way crossover, rather than the movie tie ins being very one-sided. Edited January 1, 2016 by The Cowboy Poet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 I just finished watching Jessica Jones last night(which was great) and every time Luke Cage showed up all I could think was, "goddamn, I wish I was a big strong handsome black man." So distracting. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 Onto S2 of Agents of SHIELD and I'm liking it. It's got a completely different feel to S1; it's actually got proper character arcs and the serialised storytelling comes to the forefront (which is the same switch that "improved" Dollhouse). Can't help feel that the main cast is getting a little too bloated though, which makes me suspect there's a few "departures" on the horizon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 So Russo brothers have implied there's 67 characters in Infinity War (which many shit places have taken as "67 super heroes" cos it'll be a super hero only film. But got me thinking on the size of the cast cos it is growing a fair bit: Existing Goodies Iron Man Captain America Thor Hulk Black Widow Ant-Man Falcon Warmachine Hawkeye Vision Scarlet Witch Stan Lee Starlord Gamorra Groot Rocket Drax The Wasp Nick Fury Maria Hill Winter Soldier Baddies (n still alive) Thanos Loki Nebula General Ross/Red Hulk (maybe?) Klaw The Leader The Collector(Neutral I guess?) Baddies (that might come back from the dead) Ultron Iron Monger Whiplash That guy from AIM Red Skull Abomination Malekith Ronan Yellow Jacket Due Soon Black Panther Spider-Man Doctor Strange Captain Marvel Adam Warlock (more than likely) Nova (maybe likely) Side Characters Pepper Pots Jane Foster Agent Coulson Odin(I think dead though?) Hiemdall Probably a lot more but tbh I'm a bit bored at this stage. My count is at 40ish so yeah 67 is pretty doable given there's a bunch we don't yet know of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Do we know if Captain Marvel is going to be a man or woman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Woman, it's Carol Danvers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Except they said it was 67 over the entire universe so you're forgetting TV characters. Agents of SHIELD: -Daisy Johnson -Phil Coulson -Melinda May -Fitz -Simmons -Lance Hunter -Mockingbird -Mack -Sparkplug Defenders: -Daredevil -Jessica Jones -Luke Cage -Iron Fist -Punisher -Elektra -Plus people like Froggie and Karen. PLUS since we're dealing with infinity stones of time and space -Peggy Carter -Jarvis -Whatever the proto-SHIELD agents names are Though granted I'd say that's more of a longshot, BUT keep in mind that Agent Carter is produced by Marvel's film division, so, maybe. Or a flashback scene. Or Hayley Atwell in a bad old person suit again, in a walker, coming to deliver the final blow to Thanos. Plus various other characters like Sharon Carter, Martin Freeman's character, etc. Villains like Crossbones are probably more likely to show up than say, Whiplash. I don't want the film to get bogged down with too many characters for the overall plot BUT, it would be great to get a scene where SHIELD, Defenders, various side characters, etc they could all do a role call and say a line like in the first Death Star battle. I CAN FEEL THE SHIVERS ALREADY!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'll have missed most of them out cos: 1. Only watched a bit of AoS before growing bored but HotHeart (and Jessica Jones) has renewed interest in watching again, others haven toed it gets better in line with Winter Soldier too) and with Daredevil up next following JJ. So not overly familiar with them. 2. I can't wholly imagine them bringing much of the TV stuff into the main movies. AoS certainly follows the movies quite close, but in JJ (and from what I hear of Daredevil) it's only vaguely referenced to such a thin degree Disney could decide to go "oh yeah this isn't part of the main MCU". Also errm, isn't at least one of the people on your list in the "deceased" category? (not that it matters too much in MCU, only killed two good guys in the films and one of them just had to go to Tahiti n be good as new) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Who's deceased? And I don't think you can make it to 67 characters without reaching into the TV series. Both Daredevil and JJ have references to the rest of the MCU including the Battle of NY and Captain America, it would be a little weird for them to now just go and decide it's not the same universe, when their entire point of acquiring Spider-Man and trying to get the FF back, has been trying to expand the MCU, now to go and cut it short for... what reason??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Isn't Fitz and/or Simmons dead? Might not be the case. While I'm not caught up on the show I know pre/post Winter Soldier the guy came out as Hydra n things went shit for the team a bit. As I said I've not seen DD so don't know how explicit references might get but they're pretty vague in JJ. And err...they spent billions on Star Wars then decided a large chunk of it isn't the same universe (also the Spider-Man thing is for the movies, I doubt they'd lead in negotiations to then have him as a TV star). Anyway, I hit like 40 just with the existing characters and only surface details of those coming up. Plenty wiggle room in the next half a dozen films to bulk out more and I'll have missed plenty of side characters which will more than likely be part of the 67 (which the way it was spoken of seems a "this is our max, we're slimming it down") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'm going to spoil a character death on AoS: No, they're both alive as of the most recent episode. Tripp died because the show added another black character and American produced TV has the "rule of one". At least that's my theory. But he wasn't really a vital character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Agents of SHIELD feels a little like the red-headed stepchild of the MCU (no offence to redheads or stepchildren) in that they must hate trying to fit it in with all the other stuff going on. Compared to the Netflix series, there are so many moving parts and it's an ongoing production rather than a standalone release. It has the most direct ties to the films out of all the Marvel shows, but you get the sense that they're not allowed to do too much or get too involved. I always want more Lady Sif though. I hear they're now going ahead with the spin-off, with Morse and Hunter. I like those guys. I actually wish they'd have gone the whole "Can't have X-Men so just do Inhumans" route for a whole new series. A lot of potential for creating new characters and such. Also, I really like Fitz. And it's cool that the "will they/won't they" is between those two since the Skye/Grant thing got upended in a shock twist. Not seen S3 and might not for a while, but am intrigued by what happened to Simmons at the very end of S2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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