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I'll always remember the day I had to choose between N64 and PS1. Had always wanted a PS1 for games like Ape Escape and Spyro, but then I played Super Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, and Banjo-Kazooie as time passed by without a home console.

 

N64 games to my left, PS1 games to my right. Two demo booths, N64 playing Banjo-Kazooie and PS1 playing Ace Escape. Feeling the controllers, weighing my options between the selection of games...

 

NINTENDO 64

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We had my dads NES, year day he borrowed a PS1 off a friend and that Christmas there was a PS1 under the tree. It had a much much better selection of racing games if memory serves which would have been the deciding factor for my dad. And the next Christmas our gran got us Harry Potter, our dad had already gotten that so we returned it for several other games including, erroneously, Final Fantasy IX (years later found out it was FFVII my mate had shown me play)

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I got an N64 first, and loved the crap out of it.  Years later the first game I played on the Playstation was Tales of Destiny, on a PSX borrowed from my mom's boyfriend, and then I had to get a PSX.  N64 will always be nearer and dearer to my heart though.

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It was during the N64 era that I ceased to be a huge Nintendo fan. The games never really got much better than Mario 64, and there were no RPGs or real tactics games, which I LOVED on the PS. I got the various Star Wars games (aside from Pod Racer, because FUCK the prequels), as I was a huge Star Wars nerd, but they were all lackluster and ugly. Once I got a gaming PC and Half-Life, Nintendo and I were done for good. I went back and played a few Gamecube games on my sister's console, but none ever really took hold of me.  I played a lot of Wii at friend's houses, but I LOATHE the every single part of the fucking WiiMote with the burning passion of a million suns, and, again, there were no games that really appealed to me. 

 

It saddens me that Nintendo doesn't offer anything appealing enough to justify my purchase of one of their consoles.I spent countless hours on dozens, maybe hundreds of NES and SNES games.I still treasure my SNES; it's the best birthday present I have ever received. I still think the most beloved and radical changes to Nintendo's various properties happened on the SNES, including the development and cementing of the core Mario and Zelda gameplay and art styles. Every change to Nintendo's core series since has felt incremental, rather than revolutionary (allowing I have not played Mario Galaxy, which seems like it breathed new life into Mario). even the change to 3D did not radically alter what Nintendo's core game series were. 

 

Nintendo's focus on new hardware gimmicks is a major weakness. The 3DS is a success in spite of its 3D. The WIi U's tablet controller is pretty much used for remote play and inventory screens rather than the promised asymmetric gameplay. One of the reasons THQ failed was the flop of its very similar uDraw tablet; it was nuts of Nintendo to think that its version would do sell the Wii U.

 

The Wii U isn't dead yet, however. The odds certainly are against it being anything other than a failed console, but perhaps Nintendo will experience a Christmas miracle in Wii U sales numbers. Though, given that December sales mirror or are weaker than November sales for consoles, its tepid November numbers are not encouraging.

 

If the Wii U is a failure, as I think it will be, Nintendo is in a bind; the 3DS is successful and a lot of Nitnendo IPs have a great home on the handheld. But that leaves a lot of console game money on the table. I am not sure its investors would be pleased with that. I believe Nintendo games would sell like hotcakes on the PS4 and Xbone, and even the PC. 

 

I hope Nintendo survives. I hope its IPs thrive. But it will be difficult to recover from the potential abject failure of the Wii U.

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I had a N64, never had a PS1 but my best friend next door did, we always bought whatever console the other one didn't have. At the time, the N64 was a good decision. When you're 10 years old in 1997, having your best friends over every night in the summer and playing 4 player Goldeneye till 2am was the tits. Same thing a couple years later with Perfect Dark. Plus both Zeldas and Mario Kart. But as I got older I found Nintendo didn't really grow up with me, so near the end of the N64 days I had stopped gaming. I wish someone had just told me to pick up a PS1 and some Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid games but alas, no one did. So basically what I'm saying is if you find yourself trapped in the 90s and you're over 13, buy a PS1.

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The Wii U had a comparatively excellent week before Christmas... in Japan. http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Wii-U-Sells-119-000-One-Week-Dominates-Japanese-Sales-Charts-61243.html

 

Fascinating to see if the Wii U becomes a Japan-only console. I bet dollars to donuts that, aside from Japan, the worldwide sales figures were lousy for December.

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Jesus, I know I'm a bit of a Nintendo defender but even I found that embarrassing to read. One week of good sales (when Wii U is the only choice in Japan for a "new" home console) and this guy is saying Nintendo has won the generation...

 

And he's boasting that they " continue to roll out more hard hitting titles " and then cites New Super Mario Bros U which is over a year old and boasts that it's just sold more than dead rising 3 that's only been out a month? He is completely deluded.

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I know, right? I chose that article because the others I found were either worse, or didn't clarify that the sales numbers were from Japan. Reading between the lines, it seems like 109,000 Wi Us were sold in Japan and and 10,000 were sold in the rest of the world that week. 

 

I've found that there are quite a few overeager Nintendo boosters writing blog posts about Wii U sales figures. They all seem to live in their own separate reality.

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I wouldn't judge anything this early, especially considering any stock shortages skewing things, but PS4 outsold XO significantly in the UK last year, even though it came out a week later (significant in such a short time-scale of around one month). 530k vs. 364k. so a difference of 166k. 

 

XO first week sales also failed to beat PS3's first week sales from 2007. I wonder if UK will flip to have Sony's be the most popular console this gen? Either way I think neither will have a significant lead over the other over their lifetime, bar something major happening. UK was one of the few places the 360 outsold the PS3 so I wonder if MS will try especially hard to gain a lead here? They seem rather laise faire about the whole thing so far, though I wonder what the atmosphere is like behind the scenes.

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The Wii U continues to be a flop, despite the good sales numbers in Japan in December. 

 

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2014/01/06/nintendo-is-going-to-miss-its-wii-u-target-by-at-l/

 

Edit: PS4 is ahead of the Xbone by over a million units sold. It also sold more units in a month and a half than the Wii U did in all of 2013.

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Wow, that in-line ad at the end of that article is awful.

 

*Edit* - To provide some sources for Goh's statement about sales, Xbone has sold "over 3 million units", PS4 has sold 4.2 million.

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Nintendo's market value has overtaken Sony.

 

And slightly surprisingly, PS4 was the best selling home console in the UK last year. Which I guess implies the last gen sales (and obviously Wii U too) were very stagnant

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To re-rail this (I might slice off the Nintendo stuff, good topic but not much in way of wars):

Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition to run at 1080p on both PS4 and Xbox One, but only the PS4 version will hit 60fps, and the Xbox One to run at a gravy-less 30fps.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-23-tomb-raider-definitive-edition-is-60fps-on-ps4-report

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