TheRevanchist Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245400/Microsoft_to_1_its_OS_move_to_Windows_9_in_2015 In April of 2015, Windows 9 is coming. It felt like Windows 8 just never really got off the ground, so this could be the answer to that. The details are sketchy and just guesses from everything I've read. We will find out more in six weeks, when there is an industry conference. Edited September 30, 2014 by Deanb Fuck you MS, learn to count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 The strongest OS. Or maybe the most baka. We'll see. It'll be good if Microsoft just settles with 9 for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Just get rid of that metro garbage and I'll think about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 April 14th of this year is when official support for XP will end. I took some training in Microsoft's ExpertZone recently and I'm wondering who they would aim "Windows 9" at considering all the courses I took about "Windows 8 and Small Businesses" were implying it was the OS to consider when upgrading from XP. Obviously it didn't factor in that you can't have a simple upgrade to 8 from XP, but whatever. Small businesses will go with whatever they feel comfortable with, and Metro has never been easy on the eyes. I can handle Windows 8, but whenever I have to sell a computer, I always begin by showing the Desktop. I mean, as the article was saying, it's doubtful Microsoft is going to completely back away from the tiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Just get rid of that metro garbage and I'll think about it. So you want Aero back? How about no? Anyways, this is really just the standard release cycle they've been doing for quite a while. @Atomsk88 How has Modern never been easy on the eyes? Visually, it's been well received, it's the functionality that people complain about. I would not be surprised if some sort of optional more traditional start menu is brought back and it includes more enterprise friendly features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 "more enterprise friendly features" Yes. Enterprises buy licenses by the hundreds/thousands. This should be key to keep sales, as organizations want to use cheap (crappy mostly) desktops for their employees to use. And, when it comes to the tiles/apps, IMO touchscreens are nice for PLCs, but those are custom programmed for most organizations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 @Atomsk88 How has Modern never been easy on the eyes? Visually, it's been well received, it's the functionality that people complain about. Going off my personal experience, having to sell Windows 8 desktops and laptops, it either bugs out my customers or puts them off entirely. I always make it a habit of showing them the Desktop, and in some cases showing them a display model with Pokki if they truly wanted the ol' Windows 7 feel. It helps when you have a touchscreen as the Tiles feel more natural for the device, but still from time to time I get customers who can't adapt and return the recently purchased device. Happened today for me in fact, though they were more so frustrated than confused. At the same time there are definitely people who can adapt to the change, though I'll hear from them they've stopped using the apps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I'm not sure if that means it's not easy on the eyes. That sounds just like "scary new thing is scary" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I think it's ugly. It looks like a fisher price toy (XP was ugly for similar reasons on the default color scheme). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I think making the desktop background be your Start Screen background makes it a lot less "BRIGHT COLORS EVERYWHERE" to look at. Plus I know you're jelli of those Steam shortcuts. I'm trying out transparency (third party.) Might just drop it though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 If the tiles don't collapse and get hidden... Dude, what happened to the days of "Screw desktop icons"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I still don't have any desktop icons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I think making the desktop background be your Start Screen background makes it a lot less "BRIGHT COLORS EVERYWHERE" to look at. Plus I know you're jelli of those Steam shortcuts. I'm trying out transparency (third party.) Might just drop it though. This plus the return of the Start button makes 8.1 look and feel less new for people and allow people to transition to the new computer layout. Honestly, I didn't mind windows 8, but I also understood why people didn't like it. I think this looks and feels a lot less disjointed too. I really wanted windows 8 to be something great, I remember using DOS, but I have no memory of how important the transition from DOS to Windows was. I had hoped Win. 8 would have been that next big step in UI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I will say I love Windows 8 on my step-dad's convertible laptop/tablet. It's very nice for touch interface. Way better than Windows 7 touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Expected to be announced next week so more and more is leaking out. I'm quite excited for it, seems like it's sorting a fair bit out that went tits up with Win 8 while adding some pretty "modern" features to Windows. The one I'm rather looking forward to is the virtual desktops, quite enjoy that feature on my Mac at work, usually have 3 "desktops" on the go depending on my current task, certainly helps when you're on a single monitor, I'm not sure how well it'll go with multi-monitor (or if Windows 9 will bring back proper multi-monitor handling, though the changes to how Apps and Start Screen work it might do) but only need to wait a bit and I guess can give it a test run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 I agree with FDS, I don't mind the look of Metro / Modern whatever the eff its called. I think it looks pretty good, it's the functionality of it that needs work. To adaptive to touch, traditional m/kb has issues, to me at least. Be interesting to see what they do with 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 I'm excited to finally have modern design explorer and other icons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Oh hey, looks like I can put a computer to sleep or shutdown with just the keyboard again. With m+kb, you got to right click the Windows icon and then choose the option you want. I'm not aware of a pure keyboard way to do it. I wonder if Windows 9 can recognize between people using m+kb and touch so that m+kb will pull up the more traditional start menu and touch will pull up the one 8.2 uses now. Alternatively, they can allow people to pick and choose what comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 My understanding of what has been reported on so far (so not everything will be accurate, but it's pretty spot on so far), is that it's going to be a lot more "strict" between tablet and desktop and how it presents the UI to both. Rather than the mish-mash that Win8 had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Oh hey, looks like I can put a computer to sleep or shutdown with just the keyboard again. With m+kb, you got to right click the Windows icon and then choose the option you want. I'm not aware of a pure keyboard way to do it. I wonder if Windows 9 can recognize between people using m+kb and touch so that m+kb will pull up the more traditional start menu and touch will pull up the one 8.2 uses now. Alternatively, they can allow people to pick and choose what comes up. Alt + F4 on the desktop. Win+X choose option. Windows key + tab twice. Win + I then key down to the power option. Win + C, then setttings, then the power option. There's already several pure keyboard ways to do this in Windows 8.1. A few of these were in Windows 8 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Not nearly as easy as Winkey, right, right, enter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Win + X, up up right. Win tab tab return down return Win + D alt+ f4 return This shit ain't exactly difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 My biggest hope for Windows 9 is that Microsoft fixes the lack of continuity. Right now if you have a PC running Windows, there is no incentive to get a Windows tablet or a Windows Phone over an Android or an iOS device. If you have a Mac, you are better off with an iOS device just due to the communication between tablet, phone and computer. I tend to try to stay away from Macs because I just don't like the aesthetic of the OS (really a personal preference), but I have an iPhone, iPad and a Macbook Pro for work, and with Mavericks everything started to click together. I felt like I was using Apple as a service rather than a device manufacturer. Everything is transferable instantly as soon as they are near each other. I really really like how smooth it all works together. Microsoft has never really put any emphasis on this aspect perviously, but then again they never really had something to interconnect until around the time Windows 8 (actually Windows Phone 7, but lets just call that Windows Phone 8 beta) was introduced. Now with Windows 9, they will have RT which will essentially be a tablet OS with the start screen as your default screen, a phone and a Desktop OS. I would love to see windows use a messaging system similar to imessage that is not wrapped up in skype (which really sucks) but rather a better package. The Windows Mail app needs some improvement (more like a ton of improvement) and I want to feel that a windows branded tablet/phone would best compliment my PC rather than no phone really syncs up right with this package. But thats just me, and I've been extremely spoiled and tainted by all the free Apple stuff my work has thrown at me. I wish I liked Mac OS more to actually enjoy the computer more :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Couldn't you make this same argument for any Android device? You know, the ones with the biggest marketing share? Though at least with Android it's pretty easy to just install a bunch of shit to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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