madbassman39 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 I'm not sure which side of the argument you are referring to? Are you saying that Android is as complete as the Apple products or as disjointed as Microsoft? I've never had an Android device aside from my Kindle Fire (which isn't a good example of Android) so I wouldn't know. My understanding is that Android kind of leans more towards Apple with being able to open Chrome links from one device to the next or your hangouts being consistent. Its just not as robust yet as being able to answer your phone through your iPad, but it probably will be there soon. I do see Android in its own category because unlike Microsoft and Apple, there is no central computer hub for the devices. Sure you can use a Chromebook, but it would only serve to charge your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) We're skipping 9 and going straight to 10 http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/microsoft-windows-10/ Edited September 30, 2014 by madbassman39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 I know why, I know why! Because 7 ate 9. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Was it explained? I've read articles, but it was never mentioned. The better explanation, certainly better than Ethan's at least, is that we're supposed to skip every other windows version. Microsoft just fast forwarded us to 2017/2018 or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Except Windows 8 was the version that we're supposed to skip, 9 was supposed to be the good version, and then 10 was a skip version again. They fast-forwarded us to the version we're supposed to skip. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 The rule is "every other version", which Windows 10 would be the next version after 8. So in theory it's the one we're meant to get. But yeah, Ethans stuff also applies as we would in theory have had Win 9 as the good one and Win 10 as the shit one. So maybe the reason their doing this is to trick the curse with quantum stuff. http://youtu.be/5IbCP-xUcDg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted September 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm guessing their 9 version was going more in the direction of 8, but the users complained so much about the tiles, the only option left was to go with new version called '10'. Or, this is merely a tribute to John Lennon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Here's a break down on Reddit with photos and snippets of descriptions from the presentation: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2hwqxq/everything_we_know_about_windows_10/ So far all the leaked shit has proven to be true. It's essentially if Windows 7, Windows 8 and OSX/Linux had a threesome. So it's looking pretty solid. Obviously plenty time for shit to hit the fan, but it has some nice OSX features I enjoy at work, a bunch of the newer Win 8 features which were nice but not enough to entice folks to Win 8, and then an actual start menu which is what kept most users still on Windows 7. I think they realised they really fucked up on the Start Screen, Win 8.1 was their first step getting from it and Win 10 apart from tablet users it's pretty much gone. They've got Apps in program/legacy land now too. I've mentioned before but it seemed really weird/stupid how they dealt with that in Win 8 where regular desktop programs are nested within this "Desktop" app. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Maybe I'm way used to it now but it feels the other way around when you mainly use the desktop.Either way, these changes look good, especially how customizable the start menu. I'm going to piss all of you off and make mine huge and full of tiles. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Baka baka. ;_; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 a bunch of the newer Win 8 features which were nice but not enough to entice folks to Win 8 Task Manager! Had to go back to 7 as that's what the company has a license for. I miss my task manager and tiles. Hopefully when we upgrade, we upgrade to 10. Took too long for the last company I worked for to get a 7. Windows XP is fine and all, but it sure does suck once you get a taste of 7 (as my home computer ran 7). While FDS might be joking (or is he?), I would, most likely, fill the start menu with tiles. I'll have different folder shortcuts, every single program I could possibly use for work, for procrastinating, etc. There is currently not enough space for my start menu shortcuts on Win 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Are you talking about a different task manager than the one I get on Windows 7 by hitting ctrl+shift+esc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Yeah, the Task Manager in Win 8 is much improved over previous Windows versions, the copy/move file dialog is better too: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/preview-iso So it took 4 minutes to install, then a further 2 minutes of "setting up" then I was logging in and done. Which is holy shit hot fast. Currently at the moment "installing your apps" as I write this up. Got it running on Virtual Box, just put in that it's a Windows 8.1 64-bit OS. HAHA "How hard was it to use Start" just popped up. I guess they're wanting to take on a lot of feedback with this. edit: Oh you can't move windows around the virtual desktop, that kinda sucks. There's a weird menu thing on the left hand side of the ...shit my brain escapes me here but the opposite end of the min, max n close buttons. It's three dots, and seems like it acts like the burger menu does in Android, though the same commands (which 90% don't work) for every app: App Commands Search Share Play Print Project Settings Full Screen Actually now I'm playing with it, maybe it replaces the Charms bar (since Apps are now free roaming semi-full blown programs in Win 10). Nope Charms bar is still thing (with shiny Windows logo, like literally it shimmers as the Charms bar pops out) edit2: The start menu icon itself shimmers, it's quite nice. It's only a minor visual touch, but..I dunno, I like it. Hope it stays. edit3: For FDS: the start menu has a horizantal scroll bar, you can add as many tiles as you like (that I've tested so far, and make them huge too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 That icon I think does replace the charms bar based off of what I've seen. The charms bar is still there but they are keeping that mostly for tablet users I read. I think you have the option to full screen apps through that icon so they act like the Metro apps of Win 8. My biggest concern for installing on my laptop is that I bought it because I wanted a multi-touch mouse tracker. I made the mistake of buying an ASUS that uses ASUS software to make the mouse pad multitouch instead of just being native to windows. I hope that they eliminate that need on new computers and that if they do ASUS will at least keep the software up to date :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconrath Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 I like to think of it as Windows X...for XTREME! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) First hour impressions: -Dat font rendering -Holy shit the icons all fit the theme! -Whoa, no window borders=sexy -The start menu is an unsubtle combination of old and new -Wait, where the FUCK are my categories and columns for tiles? Organization= destroyed -Holy shit make that search and app switcher icons be optional -I have to install drivers to use my touchpad for more than clicking? Da fuq? MSFT plz this works out of the box in a Linux OS that's still in beta -Whoa, bootup is fast, as I had to found out after installing touchpad drivers. Even faster than Win8.1. Seriously, that was almost as fast as the Linux distro I was using. Like not even noticeablely different. Edited October 4, 2014 by Faiblesse Des Sens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 It's not an app switcher icon, it's the virtual desktop icon. I do agree it should be optional, especially as Start has search and is right next to the Search icon. Also you can use the Start screen, right click the Start menu and there's an option to boit it up. As it stands the default is to adapt to the device, so tpych n tablet devices will get the touch/tablet orientiered Start screen and desktop/laptop get the tried n tested menu. And yeah, it's shit balls fast right?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 It's not an app switcher icon, it's the virtual desktop icon. I do agree it should be optional, especially as Start has search and is right next to the Search icon. Also you can use the Start screen, right click the Start menu and there's an option to boit it up. As it stands the default is to adapt to the device, so tpych n tablet devices will get the touch/tablet orientiered Start screen and desktop/laptop get the tried n tested menu. And yeah, it's shit balls fast right?! It's both app switcher and virtual desktops. I saw the start screen option already. But yes it's fast. Very surprising that it's even further optimized than the already fast 8.1. Anyone coming from 7 must be shitting themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 so to keep it simple, from those of you previewing I'm a Windows 7 guy. Improvement or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 As a Windows 7 guy and one not hugely fond of Win 8, yeah I'd say it's an improvement. All of the technical improvements (and beyond) that Windows 8 brought in, without the forced on tablet crap. It's early in the preview though, there's stuff like the Search and App/Desktop switcher being forced in with no way of removing from task bar, but other than that all is well. Only main thing I guess is to test it out a dual screen set up (Where Windows 7 was a vast improvements on previous versions but Win8 regressed), unfortunately that's hard to test in a VM. It's simple enough to download and set up in a VM and give a test run yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 good to hear. I tested Windows 7 when it was offered and if I get another computer within the next 6 months I might give this a download. Assuming the retail release isn't out by then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 As a Windows 7 guy and one not hugely fond of Win 8, yeah I'd say it's an improvement. All of the technical improvements (and beyond) that Windows 8 brought in, without the forced on tablet crap. It's early in the preview though, there's stuff like the Search and App/Desktop switcher being forced in with no way of removing from task bar, but other than that all is well. Only main thing I guess is to test it out a dual screen set up (Where Windows 7 was a vast improvements on previous versions but Win8 regressed), unfortunately that's hard to test in a VM. It's simple enough to download and set up in a VM and give a test run yourself. What are you smoking? Windows 8 is much, much better for dual screen setups, I loathe using Windows 7 at work because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Unless something changed, dual screen set-ups meant that one screen was relegated to running apps/Start Screen. Great if you love the Start Screen and all the apps, less so if you don't particularly care for that part of the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Unless something changed, dual screen set-ups meant that one screen was relegated to running apps/Start Screen. Great if you love the Start Screen and all the apps, less so if you don't particularly care for that part of the equation. That has never been the case for any version of Windows 8. You could always have the desktop across both screens. http://www.pcworld.com/article/259794/how_to_set_up_multiple_monitors_in_windows_8.html Seriously all of the improvements were in vanilla Win 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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