Faiblesse Des Sens Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 have they said anything about doing a clean install? after the nightmare last time I almost feel like giving up in advance and just doing an update. edit: just listened to the cortana announcement, and does it sound that natural when you're using it? I think I'm going to do an update to make sure my key has been converted then do a clean install using a win 10 ISO and the updated key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconrath Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 How to disable the “Get Windows 10” icon shown in the notification area (tray) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Up arrow > customize > only show notifications. Who cares if it's in the hidden little box thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Not sure if this is old news, haven't been keeping up with this thread much, but it looks like they confirmed you can do clean installs post-upgrade. So I guess it's not just your current install that's upgraded, but your actual key or something. That's pretty much the only thing I was worried about, so it looks like I'll be upgrading then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 It was always my understanding that it's your key itself that gets upgraded. It would be weird if it was just a one time upgrade and you had to revert all of the way back to the OS you started with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I agree but it's also the first time Microsoft does the whole free OS thing, so I didn't want to assume. I wouldn't have put it past them for there to be some kind of catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Microsoft doesn't act like that, though. I think people have bad taste for this sort of thing from how they've handled some things on the vidya side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I've upgraded to Windows 10. Looking for any app recommendations (though best I can tell I've got the 3 half decent ones and they're not that half-decent). Considering it's using the appstore from Windows 8 it's pretty paltry collection for nearly 3 years of effort. I can only assume the low adoption rate n confusing RT version didn't help, but Win 10 should hopefully solve that. Also if someone can point out where to do the independent multi-monitor wallpapers cos I can't find those settings, so far it seems much the same as Windows 7 had except I had to disable it duplicating the taskbar across both screens (Cos I totally need to see that twice in case I forgot what I had open). Also I can't disable the language notification, in case I suddenly want to speak american. Other quirks, and this might be a preview thing, is that Cortana doesn't work in the UK which is odd cos if you click the "Learn More" it totally lists the UK along with several dozen other countries and languages, so not sure what's up with that. Oh another quirk is the default on express install is to connect to any open wifi, despite in the custom settings it explicitly stating this is a security risk. So well fucking done there. Oh and it lost Virtual Windows from the earlier build which is weird/disappointing. Thing is there's a reference to it in the Control Panel/"Settings" (oh yeah "My Computer" is now "This PC", not sure on the purpose of the change except for corporate where it's likely to not be your PC and likely to not even be your personal work PC a fair chunk) edit: I've found Virtual Desktops (it's in the alt-tab-ish "Task View" manager) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I actually have no idea what happened to different wallpapers on each monitor. I remember using it but the feature is like seriously not even there anymore on 8.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 How to Game "Epically"* on Windows 10: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/22/game-epically-on-windows-10/ Already have Shadowplay with Nvidia, but I guess if this Game DVR is system wide might make a more standardised format. Hopefully it gives out raw files and not locked to just being able to share on Youtube/Twitter. *I guess its "The Coalitionly" now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 If you're upgrading to Windows 10 you'd better keep a close eye out for shit like this: Microsoft is doing more data gathering than ever with the new OS, up to and including your keystrokes. They're also using a P2P network for downloads and updates, so you'd better hope they don't get compromised. You probably want to disable Wifi Sense too. http://www.pcworld.com/article/2943752/wifi-passwordsharing-feature-in-windows-10-raises-security-concerns.html And this isn't as important but I just find it fucking tacky. Solitaire is freemium now: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 Yeah in installing the OS there's quite a bit to turn off. On the Realtime protection though that's pretty much how I disable it anyway (usually when installing things it'll disagree with), then turn it back on. Quite a bit of it really MS should detail, though much of it is easy to turn off. I've seen folks making a stink about it storing your wi-fi info, but it's the last OS to actually do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 I don't get the supposed issue with WiFi Sense. All it does is let people you give the password to share access with other people, but they could already have done that since they have the password... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) I don't get the supposed issue with WiFi Sense. All it does is let people you give the password to share access with other people, but they could already have done that since they have the password... It shares access, not the password. Say for example you have Wifi Sense turned on and your best friend comes over to your house. He can log on to your wifi without needing your password because you have Wifi Sense enabled. That might be okay with you, but then when he goes to HIS friend's house it would also give wifi access to the other guy, even if you've never met him in your life. Edited July 29, 2015 by Mister Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 It wouldn't automatically give it to his friend, he would have to manually share access with them, and he can only do that if you actually gave him the password. People who receive access via WiFi Sense cannot then share that access with others, only people who you give the password to can. My point is that if you have them the password they could do that anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconrath Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 A keylogger that comes standard? Oh Microsoft you silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 It wouldn't automatically give it to his friend, he would have to manually share access with them, and he can only do that if you actually gave him the password. People who receive access via WiFi Sense cannot then share that access with others, only people who you give the password to can. My point is that if you have them the password they could do that anyway. The problem is that unless Microsoft changed something, Wifi Sense is turned on by default, meaning that even if you trust your friend not to give access to your network to people you don't know, they might be doing it without even being aware of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 Then you give your friend access only via WifiSense. Not that hard to deal with at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 It wouldn't automatically give it to his friend, he would have to manually share access with them, and he can only do that if you actually gave him the password. People who receive access via WiFi Sense cannot then share that access with others, only people who you give the password to can. My point is that if you have them the password they could do that anyway. The problem is that unless Microsoft changed something, Wifi Sense is turned on by default, meaning that even if you trust your friend not to give access to your network to people you don't know, they might be doing it without even being aware of it. Okay, I reread the article and you're actually more right than I realized. The first time I read it I thought that your friend would have to manually choose to share this specific network with each specific person he wanted it shared with, but now rereading it you're right, if he's got the sharing turned on then it will automatically share it with all the contacts in the groups he has selected. Jesus Christ, I can't believe that's turned on by default. Oddly, though, I think that security hole means you actually want to leave WiFi Sense turned on, like GOH suggests: if your friend receives access via WiFi Sense then he can't share that access with anyone else. Although it doesn't look like any of the three groups are sufficiently narrow. Your other option is to do like the article suggests and when you're giving them the password you need to enter it yourself onto their device and make sure it's not set to be shared. There needs to be a way to share it only with specific people, because then it could actually be a useful feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 One really dumb thing about WifiSense is that it requires you to change the SSID of your network to opt out of WifiSense discovery; tons of folks have ISP-provided routers that do not allow the user to change the SSID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 My only thought here is in practicality, how often are folks having friends over with their computers. Only friends we have connected to the network are with their phones/3DS's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 How exactly does your friend share the access to other people? I think this is the part I don't get. So say you gave him the password, he enters it to his laptop and keeps sharing turned on (is this the wi-fi sense option?), he just automatically shares that access to others even if he's (both of them are) out of range of your network? So others can pick it up by just being in the same location (coffee shop), then going over to your house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 No, it shares the login info with that person's computer, so in the event they're ever in range of your WiFi their computer will connect, even if you haven't given them permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 30, 2015 Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 Uh.. shouldn't your post have said "yes, it shares the login..." instead of No? And are we talking about the third person here? As I understand from the conversation on the previous page, the third person having access is the issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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