CorgiShinobi Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I agree with you FLD; first was alright, but the second is an abomination. The third... I'll probably give it a $5 matinee chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirandello Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 (edited) What a strange premise for a movie.EDIT: Link was broken. Edited May 7, 2011 by Pirandello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Strange? I would say that's probably one of the most amazing premises to any movie. It's life; lived by everyone that exists every second that we exist. To me, perspective is probably the greatest thing anyone should learn in life. When I traveled to New York, I came to the realization that there were so many people in one city, living in a moment, and each person had their own story. Perhaps I'm only ever going to most of these people once. Maybe we'll meet again because what they have going on in their life. Right now, this instant, there is a birth, a wedding proposal, a loved one passing away, a man losing his job, a student celebrating a success, a group of teens partying, someone contemplating suicide, and another embracing nature. If more people could break their limited scope and understand how similar we are in such daily occurrences, there wouldn't be as much intolerance and indifference of one group to another. Moment of Zen, ladies and gentlemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirandello Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 I think I'd actually go watch that movie. I remember an event sometime in the past (I think it was on a holiday), where everyone in the world posted a single picture of what they were doing that night and posted it to a worldwide image database, who put them into a randomized slideshow; distinctly remember it because (I think it was on Kotaku, actually), an editor submitted an over-the-shoulder shot of him playing Mass Effect 2 at home on the 360. It was a nice contrast to all the other pictures people submitted; dragon dance festivals in China, fireworks in Miami, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 First Transformers was okay. Second was absolute shit. Not really looking forward to the third one, but I have to admit the second half of this trailer is pretty sick! That's funny, I thought the first was complete garbage, and the second one more tolerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 I'll take Jazz, the token black bot, over 1) dog sex, 2) Sam "I can't say love until I'm in the middle of a desert with giant alien robots and military soldiers" Witwicky 3) wrecking ball testicles, and 4) those twin "dayum sawn" bots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0tfWj24eVY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr W Phallus Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 I don't know what to think. Personally I think the CGI characters are a bit too realistic, uncanny valley and all that. Hopefully the story will be good and the won't mess around with the original plot of the books too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 I remember there being an animated series, one I watched back in the 90's. That's the only exposure I have had to Tintin, so I won't know if they'll do justice to the source material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Could be good... 'Starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Seth Rogen, Anna Kendrick, Bryce Dallas Howard, Anjelica Huston and Philip Baker Hall....a comedy/drama based on the real-life experiences of screenwriter Will Reiser and his battle with cancer, is, throughout, honest, touching and hilarious, offering equal measures of tears and laughter. Though the entire cast is excellent, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, especially, turns out the single greatest performance of his already-incredible career.' http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=78152 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr W Phallus Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Could be good... 'Starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Seth Rogen, Anna Kendrick, Bryce Dallas Howard, Anjelica Huston and Philip Baker Hall....a comedy/drama based on the real-life experiences of screenwriter Will Reiser and his battle with cancer, is, throughout, honest, touching and hilarious, offering equal measures of tears and laughter. Though the entire cast is excellent, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, especially, turns out the single greatest performance of his already-incredible career.' http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=78152 I think the film could go either way, and not just because that fits the title. The trailer was pretty average but for some reason gave me a strong feeling that it was a film that just wouldn't really work as a trailer even though the film itself is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 What do you mean it's not an actual film?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQHqNxyEaws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainHurtBoy...2 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 I'm going to again talk about my love for smart apes. They are APES. But SMART. This movie looks fucking incredible. High production values, cool fucking plot, A-List actors, interesting premise, I don't see how it DOESN'T look good. About 50/50: It looks like another piece of shit Gordon-Levitt hipster movie that's getting a wide release even though it doesn't deserve one, though it'll do well because it's Gordon-Levitt, it has a guy with cancer in it, and it's 'quirky'. Fuck movies like that, clogging up the cinema, devaluing respectable studio films. I'm a hater, yeah, but fuck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr W Phallus Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) devaluing respectable studio films. Wow. There's a sequence of words I never thought I'd see. Are you saying that the big Hollywood studios a) are respectable b] have value (other than the occasional one off) and c) are under any kind of threat from an indie movie? And exactly how does a movie featuring Seth Rogen (one of the most over-cast comedy actors in Hollywood at the moment) and Joseph Gordon-Levitt (star of hit blockbuster Inception (#9 on IMDB's top 250 list, #25 on IMDB's top grossing list) and soon to star in the sequel to The Dark Knight (#10 on IMDB's top 250 list, #7 on IMDB's top grossing list)) in any way shape or form qualify as a 'hipster' movie, i.e. a movie that consciously rejects the mainstream, or popularity in general. As for Rise of the Planet of the Apes I don't see how it DOESN'T look good Should we start with the ridiculous premise and move on from there? An illogic plot doesn't qualify for 'cool' in my eyes. High production values? That means shit all for the quality of the movie, how often do we talk about how good graphics don't make a good game? The CGI is impressive, sure, but that doesn't mean it looks good or in any way convincing, and that doesn't give me much faith for a emotional sub-plot where I'm supposed to sympathise with a CGI ape. Speaking of that sub-plot, it seems hackneyed and contrived, especially in a movie which was clearly pitched as MOTHERFUCKING APES FUCKING SHIT UP. A-List actors? Depends on your definition of A-List I suppose; currently hyped up, certainly, Franco especially, but the only person who I would say I think particularly highly of is Andy Serkis. Hmm, what else, the direction looks bland, the writing cliched, neither Director nor Writers have done anything of note...frankly I don't see how it possibly COULD look good. If you think the premise is interesting just watch The Planet of the Apes, and I hope to god you realise I'm not talking about the Tim Burton version. Oh that's right, RotPotA drags the name of a great film through shit, further damaging the original's already tarnished public image. Fuck movies like that, clogging up the cinema, devaluing respectable independent films and wringing the last vestiges of originality and creativity out of the Hollywood machine which brought us such recent classics as The Hangover 2: The Same Shit All Over Again But More Offensive and, well we have a thread for this. Edited June 4, 2011 by Mr W Phallus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 I actually can't take BHB's post seriously. It has to be trolling. I refuse to believe otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Rat Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Maybe he just has an intelligent ape fetish he's really open about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainHurtBoy...2 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Trolling for the most part about 50/50. I don't like movies like Juno and Win/Win. I don't like this new movement of 'quirky' film, a movement this, judging from the trailer, seems to belong to. Again, I didn't call Gordon-Levitt an obscure actor as you seem to think I did, if you properly read my post you would see I said I believed the movie would succeed because of him. I called it a hipster movie only because it has Gordon-Levitt, has a 'quirky' aesthetic and all the hipsters I know thoroughly enjoy both those things. I was NOT trolling, however, about Rise of the Planet of the Apes. I love Planet of the Apes, and I hate the Tim Burton one. I truly think Rise of the Planet of the Apes looks like an excellent, high quality film. I don't think the CGI looks bad at all, and as I stated before, I have a thing for Smart Apes. My favorite comic book character is Gorilla Grodd. Peter Jackson's King Kong is one of my favorite movies of all time. I think the plot looks very cool, and I can totally relate to Caesar and his situation of rejection because he's not 'human'. I've been in several situations in the past that are similar. People can relate to things that you can't relate to. That is a thing that happens. As for the cast, I respect James Franco as an actor, John Lithgow is an incredible actor, Freida Pinto is pretty and not an awful actress by any means, and Andy Serkis has an excellent track record. Also, just because bad movies can have high production values doesn't mean that production values mean 'shit all' for the movie. They can add a layer of polish that is very difficult to achieve without them. Also, a film like Rise of the Planet of the Apes hasn't been done before, at least not any film I've seen, so your 'lack of creativity' argument goes right out the window. Also, I enjoyed the Hangover 2. It made me laugh and I wasn't bored, and to me, that makes a decent movie. People have different opinions than you, WP, myself being one of them. I most certainly don't appreciate the tone of your post, and I certainly don't appreciate your treating me as if I know nothing of the medium: Just watch The Planet of the Apes, and I hope to god you realise I'm not talking about the Tim Burton version. You've entirely discounted my opinion and simply substituted yours, only in a tone far ruder than the one I used. I will state this: I much prefer the mainstream studio film industry to the independent one. By far. In the past few months alone I've seen many movies I've enjoyed and many I haven't. The ones I've enjoyed have been exclusively studio films, with the exception of 'Super'. This is an opinion. I will clarify that I was trolling for a small segment of my post. I also apologize if my post came off as rude. That was not my intent. TL;DR: I love smart apes, that's my opinion, get mad if you want, don't be a douche about it, I'm sorry for trolling and if I came off as rude. I also much prefer studio films to independent films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr W Phallus Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 I appreciate that you love smart apes, but if anything that just gives you more reason to be angry/annoyed/frustrated or to outright dislike a film which takes a 'cool' premise (intelligent apes taking over the world) and ruins it by turning it into a bad film. Personally I'm a big Batman fan - but I don't defend Batman and Robin (the film) just because I like the characters and the concept. It's a shit film regardless. Now we're wandering into opinion territory, and obviously it is entirely possible for one person to enjoy a film and for another person not to, and obviously we can't go around saying who is right or wrong. Did I state my opinion as fact in my post? Well, yes, just like you stated your opinion as fact in your original post. This movie looks fucking incredible.High production values, cool fucking plot, A-List actors, interesting premise We don't go around saying 'in my opinion' every time we discuss a subjective matter because there's no need. But did I entirely discounted your opinion? No. In fact I took the time to give a counter-point for each and every point you made in favour of the film. To clarify my statements further, I didn't say the CGI looks bad, I said it was impressive. Unfortunately it sits right slap bang at the bottom of the uncanny valley. It gets so close to realistic, but the whole time you are watching you are aware it's CGI and this - and I would have thought most people would agree here - detracts from the viewing experience. It certainly does for me anyway. And that bring me on to my next point. The problem with Caesar is not the character itself (although I have my suspicions that the character arc will be badly written, but that's an entirely different matter) but the fact he is completely CGI. It's kind of hard to sympathise with the character when it is so painfully and constantly obvious they are a computer animation super imposed into the film, not an actual physical presence. It's just not the same as watching a real person or animal, or even a puppet. Actors: like I said Depends on your definition of A-List You rate the actors, I don't particularly. That's the only point I was making. And as for production values, if you can name me one movie that is bad for the single reason that it has bad production values, I'll concede that you are right on that one. Also, a film like Rise of the Planet of the Apes hasn't been done before, at least not any film I've seen, so your 'lack of creativity' argument goes right out the window. Nope, can't think of anything similar... But as little imagination as it takes to say 'let's make a film that's already been made but change bits', that wasn't all that I was talking about when I mentioned a lack of originality and creativity. I was talking about the fact that when you watch the trailer it all feels so familiar (and I haven't even seen Conquest of the Planet of the Apes). The archetypal characters, the generic score, the 'flavour of the month' casting...the single interesting shot in the trailer was the one where the leaves are falling from the trees, and even then it promises more than it delivers. I'm not going to apologise for the tone of my original post, because quite frankly what you said about 50/50 was stupid (and yes that is just an opinion), and admitting to trolling then complaining about me being rude in the same post seems a lot like you're trying to have your cake and eat it. Finally, I'd just like to point out that this is just me expressing my opinion somewhat forcefully, I'm not trying to particularly offensive or aggressive and there's certainly nothing personal about my comments...I just disagree with your opinions about films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainHurtBoy...2 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 There's nothing I disagree with in your last post except your first paragraph. You compare Batman and Robin to RotPotA, but the difference is, Rise of the Planet of the Apes is NOT OUT YET. I love smart apes, but I already said I hated Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr W Phallus Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Well yeh, but isn't speculation the whole point of a trailer thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Man, not all independent films are like Juno. In fact, the vast majority of them are not. Fuck Juno! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yUwXwrR35U Edited June 5, 2011 by DukeOfPwn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainHurtBoy...2 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 That cover of Immigrant Song hurts my soul. That trailer totally misrepresents the pace and feel of the books and Swedish movie. Unless this is a major departure from the originals, I deem this trailer: awful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr W Phallus Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 That cover of Immigrant Song hurts my soul. That trailer totally misrepresents the pace and feel of the books and Swedish movie. Unless this is a major departure from the originals, I deem this trailer: awful! Well I'll start of by saying that one thing I don't like about the trailer is the tag line: 'The Feel Bad Movie of Christmas'. It feels too exploitative considering the books are all about the abuse of women, and in that sense are full of male guilt. Plus 'of Christmas' just sounds weird, they should at least gone with 'of the winter' or 'of the year'. Will it be a major departure from the originals? Well I don't know about major, but if you're condensing ~600 pages into a film you have to change the pacing drastically to make it work. Having said that, the slow, inexorable tracking shot down the snowy drive gives a nice sense of tension and pace, whilst the smash cuts add excitement and drama whilst ramping up the tension even more. I also hope it'll be quite a departure from the Swedish films, stylistically at least, otherwise what is the point of remaking the film at all? Oh I really like the music, too. But above all, there is one reason why I have faith in this film, had the trailer been good or not, and that's because it's a film by David Fincher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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