Vecha Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I honestly have little opinion on this except, "not surprised."More "SJW" rants from people online. Supposed controversy with Kotaku(Seems they love to attract it....remember when I pissed everyone off at Kotaku after follow EA/KotakuPR orders?) http://youtu.be/C5-51PfwI3M Take what you will from the video...but it wouldn't surprise me if a koraku "jouranlist" decided to have sex in exchange for a positive article. Fuck...all these game "jouranlist" are usually just amateur bloggers that get picked up from writing interesting pieces online. Anyways, Opinions? Rants? "Who gives a fucks?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Yeah, not surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I don't feel like I know the whole story just yet, but one thing that has been confirmed for me yet again is the fact that Phil Fish is a douchey little twat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecha Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Yeah...lot of things lost in the shitstorm.Found this also. I hate the world sometimes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 It doesn't matter if it's true or false, gaming websites are going to bury this whole thing. This is one of those things that people are still too uncomfortable with. If it's true, people will just get shamed into being wrong. They'll just throw antifeminist accusations out there and it'll all be like it never happened. Makes the entire thing a non issue to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Connorrrr Posted August 20, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 As far as I can tell, none of the people she slept with have helped her career in any way. None of them seem to have reviewed Depression Quest and save for a very passing allusion to the game (I cannot be bothered to go dig up the article but a list of greenlit titles, one of them being Depression Quest, and so forth). Not to mention she can't profit from it because it doesn't cost money to play! I understand the idea of generating positive buzz but c'mon. This is all a big old shitstorm because there is a woman in the industry who did some shitty things and cheated on her boyfriend. It happens all the time. It is a dangerous situation with journalists but nothing was published so That's how I see it, anyway, as a complete outsider. She did fuck over her own morals at some point, by the sounds of it, but people do that all the time and she's getting SO MUCH ABUSE for it, it's insane. I'm trying to stay out of this conversation on Twitter, in particular because it seems anyone who defends her is very swiftly attacked by people who are name-searching her, and I may as well shout into a wind tunnel on Twitter. Anyway it's not really anyone elses business. She shouldn't have cheated, just like no one should cheat on anyone, but it happens and it sucks but she should let her sort her private life out in private. Shame on her ex for sharing the amount of information that he did. I understand wanting to rant in a cathartic manner, but he published all kinds of chat logs and really sullied her name, it was awful. No one is really a winner here. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Yeah, it's a non-story. I care about it precisely as much as I care about those "Celebrity X cheated on Celebrity Y!" stories I see on tabloids at the grocery store. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Yeah it seems to be way overblown for what it is. It's super duper shitty she cheated on her boyfriend with five guys (and failed to disclose yet had unprotected sex, which yeah not great). I guess kinda hypocritical too, but for most part a non-story beyond the involvement of a games journalist (and huh, a Kotaku one at that, surprise surprise). The harassment stuff also shitty as well and anything beyond the "naughty you for cheating" isn't really warranted (Though as Vecha posted there's also word now that she'd made up some shit about a forum for mostly depressed guys...and she's working on "Depression Quest"). The censoring around it also shitty (and only fuel to the flames since Streisand effect and such). The sexism on both sides is also pretty crap. Everything has been super shitty. As an aside on the "not making any money on it": It's actually not free but Pay What You Want, and she also runs a Patreon which gets a couple grand a month. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorrrr Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I mean she has been getting more "patrons" since this drama but eh, who can say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. GOH! Posted August 20, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 This is a tempest in a teacup. Some guy just wants to shame Zoe Quinn regardless of the truth of his allegations. I suspect that the allegations are not the whole truth, likely include any number of confabulations and outright lies, and that the whole thing is a goddamned mess that should remain private in any case. It's sort of disgusting that we have a dedicated thread to this non-controversy. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I honestly don't think a game developer's sex life is something we should be discussing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) I've been following this drama since it started and I think the timing of this shitstorm (Depression Quest just came out on Steam) and the fact that, AFAIK, no one has managed to prove any of those allegations says a lot here. The guy that wrote the blog post that started everything seemed more interested in character assassination than in exposing any alleged unethical behavior. All I'm really getting from this is that maybe, possibly Zoe Quinn is a shitty person? Okay. Why should I even care? It's none of my damn business, I don't know her. There's a reason no press outlet has picked up this "story" and that's because it isn't one. The only thing all this has really accomplished is once again showing how fucking vile and disgusting gaming communities can be. It takes a truly fucked up mind to think any of this justifies harassing someone like what's been going on the past few days. Edited August 20, 2014 by FLD 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I just want a digital public stoning to take place. No more, no less. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Yes! Burn the witch! BURRRNNN HERRRRR!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 It doesn't have to be her, Any game developer or game journalist will do, male or female. Not her ex though, its no fun shitting on a nobody. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 I've actually been trying to not read or even see anything relating to all this drama, but we're at the online crusade level here guys. People have saddled their horses and are riding over hilltops with banners waving in the wind seeking the fabled witch to burn at the stake. I was reading a few comments at first, and I saw a few people with the same sentiment as we do here. They all got the same response of, get this, "weeding out the corruption and evil present in game development and journalism." Yes, and if we let this blow over, we are letting evil triumph over truth. In the end, I guess what we can take away from all of this is don't cheat on your boyfriend with a gaming journalist. Why? Well, apparently all of gaming will crumble at the weight of your lone misdeeds. Truly a loose vagina is comparable to that of Cthulhu's maw. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 That's quite the sexist attitude. Then again this traditional viewpoint that "cheating" is even that simple is to be accepted from this crowd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 You know me, I'm definitely sexist. Damn female reproductive system and its monthly cycles with the feminine hygiene market. ... Wait, how am I sexist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Cheating is doing anything with another person outside the bounds of the agreed limits of the relationship. If you've agreed to be sexually exclusive and you have sex with someone else then you're cheating, it really is that simple. Qualifier: apparently some of this happened while they were broken up for a short time? If so, then that's not cheating, because you're not in an exclusive relationship with that person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 The time line is fuzzy, apparently some of it was while they agreed to be exclusive-- either way the situation is gross and the response by some of the gaming community is grosser still. Let personal lives be that-- personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Oh yeah, talking about their relationship is lame and dumb, I just wanted to discuss the definition of cheating, because I find that kind of thing interesting. The only reason I mentioned the part about them being broken-up was so I wasn't misunderstood about what I was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staySICK Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) Oh sorry, I wasn't referencing your post, just the whole "scandal" in general.I know people like to paint video games as for children but most of us are at least out of high school and should be over this kind of stuff. also internet: why you gotta do that with my favorite burger place? Edited August 21, 2014 by staySICK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Ooooh man, this is all kinds of fucked up. Polytron website and twitter accounts were hacked and Phil Fish/Polytron got doxxed. All kinds of personal and financial info was apparently leaked. The Polytron site had a message claiming it was done by /v/ but who the fuck can say for sure... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 I'm just surprised it took this long for Phil Fish to get doxxed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 While what happened to Phil is terrible but for this whole shit show, I'll need more popcorn. Folks, history has shown that fucking for favors is bad. Add in the unfiltered rage of the internet and you'll get this level of a shit show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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