Mr. GOH! Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Looks like Ninty is desperate enough to start making smartphone games. Expect your favorite Nintendo IP to feature in a smorgasbord of F2P trash. http://www.wsj.com/articles/nintendo-opens-door-to-smartphone-games-1426579567 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I've being playing Pokemon Shuffle, not sure if I'd approve of that being their method going forwards in the F2P dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 They're also developing new "dedicated game hardware" and a new account system that will encompass Wii U, 3DS and the new hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 An endless runner Mario could be cool, and a Pokemon RPG just makes sense but, I foresee this leading to a lot of match 3 games and other F2P trash. The NX announcement was so half assed and empty... "A new dedicate gaming platform, we'll talk more about it next year"? So.... E3 2016, which is 15 months from now. A unified account system is cool, if it stops making me rebuy virtual console games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted March 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) To be utterly fair, it is your own lack of willpower that causes you to endlessly rebuy games that were released a decade ago or longer. I foresee a lot of annoying mobile tie-ins to Nintendo core games and F2P but stupid IP cash-ins a la Final Fantasy All The Bravest. Edited March 17, 2015 by Mr. GOH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baconrath Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Finally Nintendo products that will work on a device that's not jammed in 802.11 b/g 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Theyre probably all going to connect in some way to their 3DS and Wii U games Im sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I'm calling it. This is the "make it or break" venture Nintendo will embark on. Collaborating with another company and making new hardware to chase after a demographic, it has the makings of carrying your tombstone to your grave. Truth be told, it's an interesting idea of creating a hybrid gaming device with a smartphone approach. The problem arises that it has been done before to an extent in the past and the biggest problem is the way the smartphone gaming market thrives: F2P w/ Microtransactions. I know people tend to forget about it, but Sony tried to tie in their Xperia line of phones into gaming portables with PlayStation Network. It never really took off and now, if you want an Xperia phone or tablet, it does PS4 Remote Play. Not a bad thing and it plays to the strength of those devices as companion devices. I just don't see Nintendo needing companion devices for their consoles yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecha Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Wait....isn't Nintendo doing great with the 3DS? If the phone/new hardware fails...can't they just rely on a new portable. Or will everyone just want to game on their phone. Ugh bleak future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 They're doing pretty good with the 3DS, but I don't think they're doing "great". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Depends on who is making the games for phones. If Nintendo is making them, with DeNA handling publishing/distribution, it will cannibalise Nintendo's handheld market. If DeNA is making the games, then they will be mostly match 3 and endless runner spin offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 I still don't get why they don't make a Virtual Console app, maybe sell of a NES styled adapter for controls too if folks want it. Other than, yeah you're probably looking at Pokemon Shuffle type titles (developed by the guys behind Pokemon Colleseum, n Link Battle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 There's plenty of third party bluetooth controllers that could accommodate VC stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Oh yeah, meant as in if Nintento wanted to offer that as an addition. Would be a dick move to block out other controllers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Oh yeah, meant as in if Nintento wanted to offer that as an addition. Would be a dick move to block out other controllers. Given that Ninty *still* does region locking I wouldn't put it past them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Nintendo is not doing great, really; it's benefiting from the weak yen. Here's a pretty good CNBC article from the end of January about Nintendo's business health. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102378335 Edit: Nintendo is still fucked. If it unfucks itself, it will not be with the sort of products we grew up loving. Edited March 18, 2015 by Mr. GOH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecha Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Yeah...guess great was a very poor choice of words.But I've been hearing, "nintendo is doomed!" "PC is doomed!" "Sony is Doomed!" for years. I don't see Nintendo being the new Sega/Dreamcast.But what do I know lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted April 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 DeNA reveals its plans to make trash F2P games with Nintendo licenses. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/01/dena-nintendo-idUSL3N0WY2PO20150401 Nintendo has sold its soul to save the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) that's certainly the kotaku-eque headline you've created from the quote. Nintendo repeated several times during the announcement that they are more interested in presenting their IP to a wider audience than profiting from them in this venture, and that they would have control over the aspects of the app the customer interacts with (i.e. the game) so it doesn't particularly matter what spin DeNA is putting on it, when they "haven't talked to Ninendo about targets". Yes there's the potential for things to be fast and cheap, but if pokemon shuffle is anything to go by they won't be pestering you for money. I'd be interested to know what you'd like Nintendo to do apart from, it seems, to lock all their employees in their HQ and set it ablaze. Edited April 1, 2015 by TheFlyingGerbil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 Geeze, Gerbil, you make it sound like I hate Nintendo. I do not hate Nintendo. I grew up with Nintendo. My greatest early gaming moments were all on Nintendo. What I would *like* modern Nintendo to do is to abandon the home console hardware market and make great multiplatform Nintendo games for console and PC. I don't necessarily think this would be great for Ninty's bottom line, however. What I think Ninty should do if it wants to save itself is to embrace mobile trash gaming with DeNA, make a mint of of the sort of people who spend money on F2P mobile games, and reinvest the earnings in their handheld offerings and making their next console a real competitor with the PS4/Xbone, hopefully to be released in 2016 or 2017. I would not advise them to chase the home fitness market unless they can somehow make their fitness offerings work with a wide variety of third-party fitness tracking devices (like smartphones, the iWatch, for example) in a compelling way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I don't want Nintendo releasing any more new hardware until they get their shit together and make an actual account system. I'm tired of license transfers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 ^ The greatest crime of all. It hurts them so much that they don't have one in 2015, 2010... and earlier. It has been at least a or close decade since Nintendo should have jumped in on an actual account system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 If they don't have a decent account system when they relaunch in Autumn, I think I will permanently give up hope for it (well, at least for this hardware generation) The reason I'm semi-hopeful is they've referred to it repeatedly as a membership service which includes a reward program aspect, so it is not just a rehash of club nintendo. Fingers crossed it's not paid, as that's the feeling I get from the way they keep referring to it. AMD has said they are creating two semi-custom (one x86, one ARM) designs to be released in 2016, at least one of which is a games console. There are lots of rumours swirling around that it's nintendo's new console, or even that both of them are if it's some sort of handheld/home hybrid. Also, that that's the reason for the Zelda delay to do a TP style multi-platform launch. Of course it's all wild speculation but certainly a possibility. Mr. GOH!: The only consistent negativity I see on this forum is from you, toward Nintendo, and if it was on a big gaming site so I didn't see all the other good stuff you post I would think you were trolling. I usually ignore negativity - there's a lot of posts (not just Nintendo-related) here and elsewhere I'd like to make but don't, as I don't want to get into drama , but I replied to your post with a snarky comment because I was in a bad mood, which was not the coolest move but I don't think entirely undeserved. No hard feeling I hope. If so I apologise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted April 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 No hard feelings at all, Gerbil. I suppose my 'negativity' towards Nintendo comes as a reaction to the unjustified optimism (and fanboyism) regarding Nintendo I see coming from all sorts of different places, though not necessarily here. I intend my over-the-top thread names to be somewhat snarky rather than totally objective. I don't think my actual posts about Nintendo are negative, in the sense of trolling or just insulting Nintendo; I generally try to base my opinions as to their business decisions and the messes they find themselves on reporting in the business press rather than the gaming enthusiast press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 @TFG: Hey, be fair, he's also consistently negative about console gaming in general. Damn, ninja'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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