Pirandello Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 On 5/19/2011 at 7:39 PM, Mr. GOH! said: the game doesn't explain anything beyond the basic controls. There's no list of combos, nor does the game let you know that you will fucking be murdered if hit in the back. Yeah, I realized that part after I took a gander at the Swordsmanship skill tree. 200% damage from behind. Ouch. Thankfully I've gotten the ability to parry in all directions and counterattack as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) On 5/19/2011 at 7:42 PM, Pirandello said: On 5/19/2011 at 7:39 PM, Mr. GOH! said: the game doesn't explain anything beyond the basic controls. There's no list of combos, nor does the game let you know that you will fucking be murdered if hit in the back. Yeah, I realized that part after I took a gander at the Swordsmanship skill tree. 200% damage from behind. Ouch. Thankfully I've gotten the ability to parry in all directions and counterattack as well. The all-direction parries aren't as ass-saving as I'd like, but they do save my ass. Backstab damage reduction does wonders, though. I just wish more talents had mutagen slots. I just finished chapter 1 and the shitload of mutagens are burning a hole in my pocket. Oh, and, depending on your choices, chapter 2, is *entirely* different. No Bioware-style weak-ass false choices and consequences in W2; it dares to close off major content areas based on players' choices. This is hella rad and demonstrates a commitment to the best of divergent storytelling, one of the underutilized but unique aspects of video games as a storytelling medium. Edit: at least, the game seems to telegraph that the choices you make matters in a major way and that you'd end up doing different things in a different place if you had chosen differently. Edited May 19, 2011 by Mr. GOH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirandello Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 On 5/19/2011 at 7:51 PM, Mr. GOH! said: I just wish more talents had mutagen slots. I just finished chapter 1 and the shitload of mutagens are burning a hole in my pocket. Aw, what? I have an assload of mutagens taking up space in my inventory and I'd like to be rid of them, but don't know which ones to toss. I've yet to use them, though. Quote Oh, and, depending on your choices, chapter 2, is *entirely* different. No Bioware-style weak-ass false choices and consequences in W2; it dares to close off major content areas based on players' choices. This is hella rad and demonstrates a commitment to the best of divergent storytelling, one of the underutilized but unique aspects of video games as a storytelling medium. Edit: at least, the game seems to telegraph that the choices you make matters in a major way and that you'd end up doing different things in a different place if you had chosen differently. Is that so? That's incredibly interesting to hear and definitely makes it worth replaying. What exactly do you mean by that, though? You end up starting the chapter under different factions or situations? Reveal hidden contents For mine, I arrived at the Kaedweni camp with Vernon, since I took the Blue Stripes route, and ended up having to save King Menselt (sic) from a curse he inadvertently triggered whilst fighting Saskia the Dragonslayer. Subsequently, Dethmold created a spell and we walked our way out of the battlefield fighting against wraiths and specters. And that's where I am right now, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Reveal hidden contents I think I'm going with the elves... just because I'm hoping that gets me to my beloved Triss quicker. Really don't know which route to take to save her though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 On 5/19/2011 at 8:24 PM, Pirandello said: On 5/19/2011 at 7:51 PM, Mr. GOH! said: I just wish more talents had mutagen slots. I just finished chapter 1 and the shitload of mutagens are burning a hole in my pocket. Aw, what? I have an assload of mutagens taking up space in my inventory and I'd like to be rid of them, but don't know which ones to toss. I've yet to use them, though. Quote Oh, and, depending on your choices, chapter 2, is *entirely* different. No Bioware-style weak-ass false choices and consequences in W2; it dares to close off major content areas based on players' choices. This is hella rad and demonstrates a commitment to the best of divergent storytelling, one of the underutilized but unique aspects of video games as a storytelling medium. Edit: at least, the game seems to telegraph that the choices you make matters in a major way and that you'd end up doing different things in a different place if you had chosen differently. Is that so? That's incredibly interesting to hear and definitely makes it worth replaying. What exactly do you mean by that, though? You end up starting the chapter under different factions or situations? Reveal hidden contents For mine, I arrived at the Kaedweni camp with Vernon, since I took the Blue Stripes route, and ended up having to save King Menselt (sic) from a curse he inadvertently triggered whilst fighting Saskia the Dragonslayer. Subsequently, Dethmold created a spell and we walked our way out of the battlefield fighting against wraiths and specters. And that's where I am right now, actually. Heh. I'm across the mist in the dwarven city with Saskia, Iorveth and Stennis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) So...uh... how do I use mutagens? Also, deals better than Amazon's 39.99 online for The Witcher 2 atm? Edited May 20, 2011 by Saturnine Tenshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Go to your skill tree. Some of the skills (like, maybe none that you've chosen) have a little empty dot in their outline once you've put a talent point into them. Highlight such a skill and hit Y to select from your list of mutagens. I have *no* idea why so many mutagens are dropped; only higher-level skills seem to have slots and there ain't that many higher-level skills. Not enough to waste on some measly 1% chance to incinerate or whatever mutagen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Yeah, I haven't unlocked any with the slots. That's why I was friggin' confused. I looked it up elsewhere. There are some really nice early slots in the Sign tree that enhance the shield sign. Maxed out its potential + the chain lightning effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 On 5/20/2011 at 4:02 AM, Saturnine Tenshi said: Yeah, I haven't unlocked any with the slots. That's why I was friggin' confused. I looked it up elsewhere. There are some really nice early slots in the Sign tree that enhance the shield sign. Maxed out its potential + the chain lightning effect. I'm doing the swordsmanship tree and the first one I found is one of the final three or four. There's also one high up in the witcher tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirandello Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) So, uh, I just beat the game. What happened in my endgame is at the bottom. Anyways, I found the story to be a lot shorter than expected. I thought it would go as far as finding and saving Yennefer, but you never really get that far. Shame. Still though, looking forward to the next game. Reveal hidden contents I ended up in the final city, bumped into Siegfried, had a pretty uneventful conversation, spoke with Radovid about dealing with Sile and the state of Temeria; he proposed that he would take care of Temeria, but due to power constraints, he would be forced to split it with Kaedwen. After that, I saved Triss while Roche went to save Foltest's daughter. He ended up causing a massacre and had to flee; I saved Triss and all was well until the summit. We confronted Sile about her actions and the intentions of the Lodge, the dragon swooped in and flew her off to a tower, blah, blah, blah, went after her, she had her little exit monologue only to find out when exiting that her teleporter was botched. I tweaked a crystal and saved her ass. In response, she told me the exact whereabouts of Yennefer. Soon after that, I defeated the dragon, it impaled itself, but I let it live. Then, I was on my way to meet Letho at the Temerian camp when I happened upon Roche and Foltest's daughter. Saved them both; Triss suggested that Roche keep her safe and far away from the Northern Kingdoms until she's ready to take the throne. Roche left soon after, and that's probably the last time I'll see him for a long while. Confronted Letho, talked with him, and decided to let him live. He told Geralt that he'd flee south until the whole she-bang in the kingdoms is over. War is coming. Nilfgaard is mobilizing its forces against the other kingdoms. They'll all either fall, or unite together to stand against them. Oh, and the Wild Hunt, as explained by Geralt, is not a phenomenon. It's a band of nether high elves from another realm that can travel from their world to Geralt's. I'll be playing through the game again to see how it's like on Saskia's side. Edited May 20, 2011 by Pirandello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) That didn't take long >_<. How many chapters are there? I really wish they'd explain what happen to Ciri in greater detail. The mystery behind her is mind-numbing its relentlessness. JUST TELL ME SOMETHING! (As far as I know, even the untranslated books haven't.) Edited May 20, 2011 by Saturnine Tenshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirandello Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 I hear Ciri's name mentioned once or twice. Who's Ciri? o_o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Ciri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Just bought it today! The Giant Bomb Quick Look sold me. JEDI MIND TRICKS! HOLY SHIT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Oh, god. Them Jedi mind tricks are a go-to ability. They still haven't failed for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirandello Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 On 5/20/2011 at 8:47 PM, Saturnine Tenshi said: Oh, god. Them Jedi mind tricks are a go-to ability. They still haven't failed for me. Works especially well against a higher-tier enemy. Like knights. With their damn plate armor and greatswords. Even worse are the guys who have spears since it seems like my blocks don't work against their heavy swings (unless I manage to counter them in time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Oh, I meant as dialogue choices. I usually use the Qwen sign. Or whatever it's called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 So my houseamte has caught on to Witcher 2, so he's now gonna try n get through the first one. After a small tech hiccup (DVD drive unplugged from MoBo) he got it installed, and I pointed out he'd need it patching. http://www.en.thewitcher.com/the-witcher/1/ Holy hell the patch site has improved massively. I remember when I went on last bits of it was still in Polish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) Reveal hidden contents Okay. The ending I got was shit. Just shit. All of that work for Triss — telling her we'd find somewhere to stay after it was over, making every decision around her — and I get generic Geralt looking at a ladybug and the ruins? I can understand having a soft ending, but it was such an anticlimax. I've been researching the other endings, but thus far, they don't seem to vary much. Edited May 21, 2011 by Saturnine Tenshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I am really struggling right now. After I remove some stone in a harpy cave, ten harpies surround and beat the shit out of me. I tried dodging and running around, picking them off one by one, but eventually they back me into a corner and there's no way to escape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnine Tenshi Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) Slap on some Quen. Reveal hidden contents Edit: For anyone that took Roche's route. How did Triss' kidnapping turn out for you? How about the ending? Especially if you went "all Triss". I'm hoping I just got a poor ending, since I chose to expedite her rescue in every way I could think of, and always chose the options that expressed an interest in a relationship. I want to dump Yennefer. I'm going to go back and try some different approaches, but I don't feel like I'm going to get much out of it. |: Pirandello mentions he was attached to(or at least interested in) Yennefer after all of the cinematics. Well, after the relationship with Triss, I was expecting a bit more from the ending I got. Edited May 22, 2011 by Saturnine Tenshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgi Duke of Frisbee Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 On 5/22/2011 at 2:51 AM, Saturnine Tenshi said: Slap on some Quen. Thanks, I'll try that next. The guide that came with the GOG edition suggested I cast Aard to knock down harpies, but that's pretty hard to do when there's ten of those fuckers bearing down on you, and you can't cast Aard ten times in a row without a serious time delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 So I went on, finally got past the Dragon bit. Didn't realise that the options you picked when talking to the guy in the dungeon determined whether you got the Tutorial first or not :/ Reveal hidden contents I'm at the bit where he spots the Scoietael on the lakeside. Technically I'm past that part but I died and since it's 4am I'm calling it a night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirandello Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) On 5/22/2011 at 2:51 AM, Saturnine Tenshi said: Reveal hidden contents Edit: For anyone that took Roche's route. How did Triss' kidnapping turn out for you? How about the ending? Especially if you went "all Triss". I'm hoping I just got a poor ending, since I chose to expedite her rescue in every way I could think of, and always chose the options that expressed an interest in a relationship. I want to dump Yennefer. I'm going to go back and try some different approaches, but I don't feel like I'm going to get much out of it. |: Pirandello mentions he was attached to(or at least interested in) Yennefer after all of the cinematics. Well, after the relationship with Triss, I was expecting a bit more from the ending I got. Reveal hidden contents Nope, did the same thing as you and also got the crappy ending. On 5/22/2011 at 3:12 AM, Deanb said: Didn't realise that the options you picked when talking to the guy in the dungeon determined whether you got the Tutorial first or not :/ Elaborate on this. Also, I'd suggest actually playing through the game on Easy first so you can unlock all the skills and get a feel for how they work. I started a new game on Normal and the combat seems much more easier once you understand how it works. Doesn't change the fact that it hurts like hell when you mess up, though. Edited May 22, 2011 by Pirandello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) To start with, here are some comments I made to people over steam while playing through the start of the game: Reveal hidden contents 10:34 - Johnny: My problem is not that it's challenging. My problem is that the auto targeting doesn't agree with me on what I'm trying to attack and that the hitboxes for geralt is retarded 10:34 - Johnny: I've had strikes that visually went through my leg deal no damage, and strikes I've dodged by a mile kill me 10:36 - Johnny: As for the auto-targeting 10:36 - Johnny: sure, I can lock on 10:36 - Johnny: but that doesn't help when it refuses to target the guy I want to hit in the first place! 10:45 - Johnny: ... Well that's bullshit 10:45 - Johnny: I just got attacked from a monster that spawned out of camera, pushed me against the wall and killed me in half a second 10:46 - Johnny: There is little to no feedback to know when Geralt is ready to attack again 10:56 - Johnny: I'm still in the prologue/tutorial area 10:56 - Johnny: but so far it's been 90% combat 10:56 - Johnny: 8% walking 10:56 - Johnny: 2% dialogue 11:01 - Johnny: wow 11:01 - Johnny: I'm done 11:02 - Johnny: I don't want to play a single 4 vs Me battle where the most obvious solution is to run around in circles and wait for the retarded enemy AI to screw up Does it get better? Because so far it's not even really an rpg, it's just a really sluggish and inaccurate action game. Every action I perform feels delayed and I'm experiencing a general lack of control over what Geralt does. At this point I'd rather play the first game because even though I felt it was a slow, grindy mess with a weird-ass combat system; at least I felt somewhat in control. I'm seriously quite confused here. Am I missing something? Edited May 22, 2011 by Johnny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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