TCP Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Yeah it just seems like a lot of people who would be into this game would also be into Zelda and I can't say anyone picking Horizon over Zelda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 That presupposes that a lot of people own Wii Us or plan to buy a Switch plus Zelda. I think, in reality, the overlap between Nintendo drones and discerning gentlepeople who buy the only console worth owning and want to play Horizon is smaller than you would think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted January 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) *looks as PS4 sales**looks at Wii U sales* Hmm, I dunno. edit: should note I'm responding to TCP here, not GOH (he's wasn't there when I posted). Edited January 31, 2017 by deanb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) There are 13.36 million Wii U consoles. Plus whatever launch sales are for the switch. Let's be super generous and assume 2 million Switch units are sold week 1. That's about 15.36 million consoles in the wild capable of playing Zelda at launch. There are, by contrast, 53.4 million PS4 consoles. I think that if Horizon fails, it will not be due to Zelda. Edit: That makes more sense, Dean. I would be surprised if you agreed with TCP on this point. Edited January 31, 2017 by Mr. GOH! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I think Zelda would threaten Horizon if anyone owned a Wii U. But as pointed out above, no one does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 If Zelda were that important to the masses, more people would have bought a Wii U. I don't think Horizon has much to fear from it, and any world in which the Wii U was a success would be so radically different from our own, that we can't really know if in such a world Zelda would threaten Horizon. That said, I'm not saying Horizon will be successful; just that Zelda won't be a real factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I own both a Wii U and a PS4 and I'm picking Horizon over Zelda unless it turns out to be crap, which would surprise me. I still have concerns that Zelda's open world will be barren and lifeless based on what footage I have seen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Well I'm picking up Zelda over Horizon so it'll happen to some degree. Horizon is a new IP that looks pretty, but if I'm going to be doing multiple fetch quests and other open-world oriented tasks I've done before in previous games, I'd rather do it in Hyrule. Not to mention I have more faith in Zelda being more polished for what it wants to attempt versus, again, something entirely new. It isn't really bias if that's what you're thinking. I held off on RE7 because I was very cautious of the changes. Played it just tonight and love it, so I'm up for Horzion if it proves itself. And it goes down to $30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 If I'm just gonna play devil's advocate for a moment, this is also a lot of firsts for Zelda, isn't it? I don't believe they've really done a true open world like this before. They sorta gave the illusion of one in several games, but the 3D Zelda games have always been a series of closed off levels connected by a hub, as far as I can remember. It's been a while since I played Twilight Princess so I could be wrong. It's not a new franchise, obviously, but it is a rather revolutionary new take on it, at least for Nintendo. What has you convinced that they know how to do an open world game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 All I'm saying is if I have to play something new, I'm more comfortable in the hands of one of my favorites that is established and given a lot of care. I think if anyone is a fan of Zelda, you've come to expect more flora than fauna in the world. Hell if I can play Skyrim for 250 hours where most of the open world was traveling until you found a cave or settlement, I think I'll be fine. Not to mention, both Horizon and Breath of the Wild will be pretty to look at for one's playthrough. I'm one of those people that didn't mind the seafaring in Wind Waker, but you can see my thoughts here on Twilight Princess HD last year and how I found those fields to be less exciting (if not dead). As such I do think the "open world" aspect of Breath of the Wild could be a dividing point for fans just as it was for Wind Waker. Granted that was a giant sea whereas we have terrain and other landscapes to compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Horizon is way more interesting to me than Zelda. New story, new world, new everything. Versus the usual skulltula, epona, slingshot fan service that I have come to associate Zelda with. Zelda will be a polished and mechanically will play well. By all objective measures it will be a great game, but the franchise has totally lost any appeal to me. If I had never played a Zelda I might choose it over Horizon, but Horizon looks so much more interesting for being novel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted February 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Also it's not like Guerrilla Games are a totally new unproven studio either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Also it's not like Guerrilla Games are a totally new unproven studio either... Sure, but their games range from great to mediocre. They can make a beautiful game, but they're not always as good as you'd think they'd be. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 What? They have only made the mediocre Killzone games, as far as I know. What great games has Guerrilla produced? I should be clear that I'm not going to buy this game based on pre-release hype; I'm waiting for reviews. It looks very interesting, but I'm not a sucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Killzone 1 was a failed "Halo Killer." Killzone 2 was actually great visually, gameplay, and for 80% of the narrative. Damn that Rico... Killzone 3 was a step backwards, but was still a great game. It's biggest flaw was the story going ass-up halfway through and leaving players dumbfounded at the end as the folly of the main characters goes planet-wide. Killzone: Shadow Fall had the burden of being a launch title. It's great to look at, but all the other aspects are lacking. Granted the story does have its moments especially at the end. The stealth unfortunately was very limiting for the level design. All the portable Killzone games... if you're a fan you'll like them. All the pre-game Killzone games I have no experience with and it looks like the standard fair of a videogame studio getting off the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Killzone 3 MP was pretty great. Also Helghan did nothing wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 We never got a game from the Helghast side. It was so obvious and yet they never did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Personally I enjoyed Killzone 2's multiplayer more than 3's. It had obvious inspiration from Team Fortress 2, but everything was enjoyable and exciting. I felt 3's was slimmed down too much for my liking. Not to mention I didn't like a lot of the maps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 I liked Killzone 2 fine, but it wasn't great. Killzone 3 I quit probably 2/3 of the way through because I realized I wasn't actually having fun, I was interested in the game world but the encounters were boring. Shadowfall I really liked a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 That all sounds decidedly mediocre to me. The early previews of Horizon make it sound infinitely more interesting than any Killzone game. I only played Killzone 2, and I did not really like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 Reviews have dropped and they're overwhelmingly positive and affirm that guerrilla has made something pretty wonderful. Looks like I'll be using my gamestop credits from selling my ps3 and 360 for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 Even people who typically are adverse to open world games are liking it so that's something. Performance is really stable as well. If the PS4 Pro Performance mode (when it comes) is a solid 60 FPS, it might just sell me on getting a PS4 Pro (I love my performance). I do want to play the other PS4/Pro exclusives. Good job Sony and Guerilla Games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 Apparently the lead writer on this was one of the lead writers of Fallout: NV, which is very awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pojodin Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) I played it a bit at the Playstation Experience and enjoyed the little bit that I was able to test out. It wasn't enough to form a solid opinion on the game, but it looks to be quite promising. Edited February 20, 2017 by Pojodin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 I came in here to post that same video Mal posted. Guerrilla showing other developers how to do PS4/Pro cross-versions right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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